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Old 07-25-2016, 10:05 PM
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And yet the same acolytes cheer him, wear his visage.

Then again that must be why it's a personality cult. They did the same thing with their prior cult leader, ~O~.

 
Old 07-25-2016, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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I would of liked it if he endorsed Jill Stein, even if she very likely won't win, at least it would make people aware that there's more then just the 2 parties.
 
Old 07-25-2016, 10:12 PM
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I would of liked it if he endorsed Jill Stein, even if she very likely won't win, at least it would make people aware that there's more then just the 2 parties.
i want his followers to believe what he says, and support her. Why won't they believe him?
 
Old 07-25-2016, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Cornelius, NC
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As far as I know, many of his supporters aren't going to vote for Hillary even though he insists they do. It's weird that they still love him so much even after selling himself out to the corrupt DNC. I imagine most of them won't vote for Trump either but a lot of them are either going to stay home or vote 3rd party.
 
Old 07-25-2016, 10:24 PM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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i want his followers to believe what he says, and support her. Why won't they believe him?
Because we followed him not for the candidate, but the ideals. And when he endorsed HRC, someone of very opposing ideals, we did not change. We followed him because we want a taxpayer-funded education, we followed him because we want a single-payer healthcare system, we followed him because he was against fracking, we followed him because he was against the TPP, we followed him because he promised to take out big banks, we followed him because he was for US the people, not US the corporations. And his funding proved that. And his long track record in the Senate gave him an impressive resume.

Its not how the package is delivered (party/candidate), but the content of the package (policy/promises).

Get it through your skull, we are not "blue no matter who" we are for someone who isn't corrupt and promises to bring changes that will help the middle class.
 
Old 07-25-2016, 10:29 PM
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Because we followed him not for the candidate, but the ideals. And when he endorsed HRC, someone of very opposing ideals, we did not change. We followed him because we want a taxpayer-funded education, we followed him because we want a single-payer healthcare system, we followed him because he was against fracking, we followed him because he was against the TPP, we followed him because he promised to take out big banks, we followed him because he was for US the people, not US the corporations. And his funding proved that. And his long track record in the Senate gave him an impressive resume.

Its not how the package is delivered (party/candidate), but the content of the package (policy/promises).

Get it through your skull, we are not "blue no matter who" we are for someone who isn't corrupt and promises to bring changes that will help the middle class.
Do you own any Bernie swag with a caricature of his image?

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Because we followed him not for the candidate, but the ideals.
Did you cast your vote for the "ideals," or for the ballot entry with "Bernie Sanders" printed on the line?


One more thing: Are those delegates for "ideals" in Wells Fargo Arena? Or are they Bernie Sanders delegates?
 
Old 07-25-2016, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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I'm trying to make sense out of all of this and I can't but here's a few of my theories why someone like sander's sold out big time/now endorses clinton, even after we have proof the game was rigged against him(!).

Maybe it's one of the following:

1.) This was just an act from the beginning. Stroked his ego. He's a politician after all.

2.) He got payed off and/or promised something recently that made him drop his message. And wouldn't that be ironic given he complains about how our political system is so bought off?

3.) He just got tired of it all/fighting the system and wants to just retire from it all now. But that doesn't address the sell out nature of endorsing clinton.

To me if he was sincere to his message and really believed in it, he would have run independent, green, etc. from the beginning or after he lost the dem nomination, he would have went independent, green, etc. by himself or with someone else. But to endorse clinton/say so many nice things about her all of a sudden given his opposite stance on so many things compared to hillary?

Something ain't right there people.......

Regardless of the reason(s), what a sellout he turned out to be in the end.
 
Old 07-25-2016, 10:45 PM
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I'm trying to make sense out of all of this and I can't but here's a few of my theories why someone like sander's sold out big time/now endorses clinton, even after we have proof the game was rigged against him(!).

Maybe it's one of the following:

1.) This was just an act from the beginning. Stroked his ego. He's a politician after all.

2.) He got payed off recently. And wouldn't that be ironic given he complains about how our political system is bought off.

3.) He just got tired of it all/fighting the system and wants to just retire from it all now.

To me if he was sincere, he would have run independent, green, etc. from the beginning or after he lost the dem nomination, he would have went independent, green, etc. by himself or with someone else.

Regardless, what a sellout he turned out to be in the end.
Socialists are a funny lot anyway: They're always pronouncing they're for a proletariat, while they endorse a power elite. One has to ask what's changed.
 
Old 07-25-2016, 10:53 PM
 
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maybe Sander's knows Hillary is the only one who cares about the People who can actually win?
 
Old 07-25-2016, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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And yet the same acolytes cheer him, wear his visage.

Then again that must be why it's a personality cult. They did the same thing with their prior cult leader, ~O~.

What's even weirder is that Bernie Sanders is less ticked off now, after hearing about how the DNC conspired against him, than he was when he was a candidate. It's his supporters who "feel the Bern" of outrage.
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