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View Poll Results: Will Hillary see a bounce in the polls after the convention, and if so, how much?
-7 or more points (negative bounce) 1 1.37%
-3 to -6 points (negative bounce) 3 4.11%
0 to -3 points (negative bounce) 13 17.81%
0 to +3 points 26 35.62%
+3 to +6 points 25 34.25%
+7 or more points 5 6.85%
Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-29-2016, 12:44 AM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Old 07-29-2016, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I don't think Hillary made a case to add that many votes and she likely killed her chances with some. Her speech seemed tailored to win over the Bernie voters. At the end of the day, I think she left Trump an opening to win the election.
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Old 07-29-2016, 12:57 AM
 
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The mainstream media did all it could to highlight the Democratic convention.

But I don't believe it will resonate nearly as well with the public
Nonsense.
The Republican convention got the full attention of the media, just as the Democratic convention did a week later.

What's chapping your butt is the difference of a convention that was taken out of the hands of the party professionals who know how to stage a great convention and was handed over to some amateurs who knew nothing at all about conventions. And the other party left the job to those who really know their stuff.

Donald Trump had to take full control. His ego allows nothing less than full control. Leaving it up to anyone else would not have allowed him enough time in the spotlights.
That, in part, was the reason so many experienced Republicans stayed far away from the convention. They all knew a train wreck was coming, so they wanted no part of it.

That's why so few of the GOP's best speakers were never seen on the stage. That's why the few who were obligated to speak were so wishy-washy. And that's why Ted Cruz' bravery caused so much heated discussion.

The Democrat's only problem was Debbie Wasserman Shultz. She had been a thorn in the side of all liberal Democrats for years, and it all came to a head on the day before the convention began. Once she was dumped, all the contention disappeared.

We all saw a similar thing happen just before the Republican convention began. The No-Trump movement was a thorn in Trump's followers, and they prevailed. So Trump got all the time he craved onstage, and events proceeded the way he wanted them to go.

Neither convention was as smooth as silk. Both were a lot more fractious than the conventions of 2008 and 2012. But in 2008 and 2012, the Republicans had bright stars of their own onstage, especially Sarah Palin, who was the real convention standout that year.

This year was the Democrat's turn to shine. That's all, and that's the way it always is. One party or the other will have a convention that does better than the other.

The media always goes to where the glitter is. It is foolish to think otherwise. Sorry if your show turned out to be a B movie, playing to an emptier house, but that's what happens to one or the other every 4 years. Get over it.
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Old 07-29-2016, 02:03 AM
 
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I didn't find her speech good.....a lot of promises but no details. Didn't hear how to bring down the 20 Trillion Dollar debt.....how to deal with ISIS.....How to bring jobs back to the U.S.

how she is going to deal with NAFTA and TPP......how she is going to deal with the police tension in black communities.


she basically said that the U.S. still practices Systemic Racism with no details where and how she will deal with it and HOW she will be different than Obama on race relations.

She didn't explain how she will bring cost down on Obamacare which raised healthcare cost by 35% and premiums by 65%


most of the speech is that she is a fighter that she has been fighting all her life and things that most Americans could care less about....it was a speech about emotions for the crowd but nothing to deal with the country's problems.


then the funniest line from her was, Wall Street has all the money.....lets follow the money.......I was like careful Hillary, you don't want people to follow the money, it will blow your cover....LMAO!
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Old 07-29-2016, 02:10 AM
 
Location: az
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Nonsense.
The Republican convention got the full attention of the media, just as the Democratic convention did a week later.

What's chapping your butt is the difference of a convention that was taken out of the hands of the party professionals who know how to stage a great convention and was handed over to some amateurs who knew nothing at all about conventions. And the other party left the job to those who really know their stuff.

Donald Trump had to take full control. His ego allows nothing less than full control. Leaving it up to anyone else would not have allowed him enough time in the spotlights.
That, in part, was the reason so many experienced Republicans stayed far away from the convention. They all knew a train wreck was coming, so they wanted no part of it.

That's why so few of the GOP's best speakers were never seen on the stage. That's why the few who were obligated to speak were so wishy-washy. And that's why Ted Cruz' bravery caused so much heated discussion.

The Democrat's only problem was Debbie Wasserman Shultz. She had been a thorn in the side of all liberal Democrats for years, and it all came to a head on the day before the convention began. Once she was dumped, all the contention disappeared.

We all saw a similar thing happen just before the Republican convention began. The No-Trump movement was a thorn in Trump's followers, and they prevailed. So Trump got all the time he craved onstage, and events proceeded the way he wanted them to go.

Neither convention was as smooth as silk. Both were a lot more fractious than the conventions of 2008 and 2012. But in 2008 and 2012, the Republicans had bright stars of their own onstage, especially Sarah Palin, who was the real convention standout that year.

This year was the Democrat's turn to shine. That's all, and that's the way it always is. One party or the other will have a convention that does better than the other.

The media always goes to where the glitter is. It is foolish to think otherwise. Sorry if your show turned out to be a B movie, playing to an emptier house, but that's what happens to one or the other every 4 years. Get over it.

Nope don't think it resonated that well at all.

1,2 point bounce at best
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Old 07-29-2016, 03:53 AM
 
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Negative.


The party destroyed her chances with Bernie voters.
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Old 07-29-2016, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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-3 to -6. The e-mail dump revealing the fraud and corruption within the DNC, combined with the disregard of Sanders supporters who she defrauded, combined with the release of thousands of racist messages, along with the hypocrisy of a wall around the convention, requirement of ID to vote because you want to keep out minorities, should cost them in the polls. Not to mention the constant pandering to criminals throughout the convention. Assuming the American electorate are not completely brain dead and have any degree of integrity.

Of course she did promise free chit, so that may draw back the Sanders crowd back into the fold.
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Old 07-29-2016, 10:03 AM
 
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To be honest, I didn't think Hillary's speech was all that great, and I'm a supporter. But I believe the overall tone of the convention and seeing so many sincere people from such disparate groups endorse Hillary will give some people "permission" to vote for her even if they normally would not do so. Many people who traditionally vote Republican abhor Trump and are trying to decide whether to vote for Hillary, a third party, or stay home. There were many moving and inspirational speakers over the course of four days and I think many people will be inspired to vote for Hillary rather than take a chance on Trump winning. I voted for a 3-6% bump.
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Old 07-29-2016, 10:45 AM
 
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Expecting about a +5 bump for Hillary. Based on two factors:

1. TV Ratings: Dems drew 5 million more viewers than Trump did.

2. The Dems -- with numerous speakers, including Republicans and former military -- made an excellent case that Trump is simply not fit to be Commander-in-Chief nor president. There will be a number of independents and moderate Republicans who will not be voting for Hillary but will vote against Trump. Joe Scarborough, former Repub. congressman, said that Republican leaders need to seriously consider revoking their endorsements for Trump.
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Old 07-29-2016, 11:01 AM
 
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To be honest, I didn't think Hillary's speech was all that great, and I'm a supporter. But I believe the overall tone of the convention and seeing so many sincere people from such disparate groups endorse Hillary will give some people "permission" to vote for her even if they normally would not do so. Many people who traditionally vote Republican abhor Trump and are trying to decide whether to vote for Hillary, a third party, or stay home. There were many moving and inspirational speakers over the course of four days and I think many people will be inspired to vote for Hillary rather than take a chance on Trump winning. I voted for a 3-6% bump.



you think people will remember the people that spoke at the convention in July which most people know conventions are staged to vote for Hillary in November, 4 months from now?


The debates will have an effect more than the conventions.



Hillary is not good at speeches and she is not a good campaigner. The more she is out and the more she speaks that is what is going to turn off voters especially the Bernie Voters.



Obama, Michelle and to a point Bill Clinton made Hillary look bad because Hillary is not a natural campaigner and is not smooth in giving speeches......at the end Hillary has to win this on her own.
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