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Old 07-30-2016, 11:40 AM
 
Location: On the Edge of the Fringe
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Such as maybe the Libertarians? Or even an Independent ?

Something I thought about. I supported Adrian Wylie in the Florida governor's race two years ago. He wanted to be on the platform on TV as part of the debate with the other two candidates, but Governor Rick "the d*ck" Scott and Charlie "Jesus" Crist were afraid that they would lose too many votes to him. For one, he was not there to play partisan politics, and there was concern that he might ride a wave of anti-partisan angst into the office, Second, both governors Scott and Crist have done ****-poor jobs in office, and Wylie emerged with a clear cut to-do list that did not waste time or money fixing economic, educational and pork waste problems. This would not have followed party lines, but would have benefited the state most of all. But his exposure was kept to a minimum, and ultimately, the state gets shafted for 4 more years by a career crook.

BUT it is difficult in some states and territories for a 3rd party or Independent to get elected. (Samoa and Alaska are about it)

SO Is it time we look seriously at an Independent or a Libertarian given the poor choices we have this November. I am a conservative Democrat. I do not want Bill Clinton's Wife to be the president, and Trump would be even more of a disaster. I am leaning towards voting Indy or third party, so whoever wins, I can say "I did not vote for him/her."
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Old 07-30-2016, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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The two parties are entirely too far imbedded and funded to allow another party.
I just don't think this will ever happen, at least not for a long long time.
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Old 07-30-2016, 11:48 AM
 
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i say no and here's the reason, because its not really '2 parties' there were what, 17 candidates to choose from on the republican side? you had way more than 2 candidates, this political process is like the ncaa basketball tournament, its like sitting there and watching the final game on april 5th and saying "this tournament would be better if it had more than 2 teams"
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Old 07-30-2016, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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I hear you, the republican party has been running there campaigns for the big office ever since Obama got elected.


I have had republicans tell me that nobody in their party voted for Obamacare too. I asked they if they would like to have a list of the republicans that voted for it as it's public information.
Just stupidity and it shows what they are willing to believe.
Then again, in my state they just keep voting for McCain. I don't think if they knew the truth about what happened to him in Viet Nam it would make a difference. In this state, if he is a republican he gets the vote.
I knew an AF col that I buried a few years back that monitored the chatter on the radio when the "maverick" went into an area that he was not supposed to be in. If McCain had been anyone else he would have been court martialed but having a grand father and father that were high ranking helped him out a bunch in life.
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Old 07-30-2016, 01:06 PM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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SO Is it time we look seriously at an Independent or a Libertarian given the poor choices we have this November. I am a conservative Democrat. I do not want Bill Clinton's Wife to be the president, and Trump would be even more of a disaster. I am leaning towards voting Indy or third party, so whoever wins, I can say "I did not vote for him/her."
Good for you! Of all the candidates in this race, the two that I despise the most are Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. I actually agree with Trump a little more than Hillary on the issues, but I don't like his silly idea of a gigantic wall across the border, and I absolutely hate his childish behavior (making fun of people's looks or disabilities, etc.). He reminds me of a pre teen bully that many of us had the displeasure of encountering in grade school. At the same time, Hillary acts like she's above the law ... and she has proven herself to be untrustworthy with the email controversy, as well as the Benghazi incident, and other questionable dealings she & Bill were involved in.

With these stellar choices we have from the two major parties, it is definitely time to look at the third party candidates. I am casting my vote for Gary Johnson, even though I realize he has no chance of winning. It's a matter of voting for the person you agree with the most, and who you think would be the best leader. Many Americans seem reluctant to support a Libertarian for a higher office, even though Libertarian principles are basically what this country was founded on. Unlike Clinton & Trump, Johnson believes in LESS government intervention. He supports many things that most Americans agree with, such as gun rights, term limits, spending cuts, limits on foreign aid & involvement in foreign conflicts, as well as being pro choice.

Just so you know, there is no independent running for President as of now. The alternate choices to the hag bag and the sleaze bag are the Libertarian, Green, and Constitutionalist candidates. None of them will come anywhere close to getting the majority of the vote (let alone electoral votes), but it comes down to voting your conscience ... not picking the supposed lesser of two evils.
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Old 07-30-2016, 01:08 PM
 
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Trump is essentially the Third Party this time.
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