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First let us establish what has been released by both candidates. Both candidates by law had to fill out FEC forms on their overall financial status. The purpose of this law is transparency to bring in to question potential conflicts on interest.
Now we have seen both candidates by law file FEC statements. What we have not seen is one candidate that has not disclosed personal tax returns
The argument for not disclosing personal finances has been that one party to show (namely Hillary) the context of how she made the money.
If that is the argument should we not have that same transparency into Trump finances? For instance, he claims the valuation of his golf courses way about the norm for the industry,
What I propose is that for the exchange of Hillary's wall street transcripts is the balance sheet and p&l of all Trump holdings. I seriously doubt Trump would agree to this
At this point Clinton has disclosed far more about personal finances than Trump has. This can not be disputed.
I believe there is a twofold answer into the question of Trump's missing tax returns:
1. He is not worth nearly as much as he claims. Trump claims to be worth in excess of $10bn, quite a hefty sum. He regularly flaunts his wealth and net worth on the campaign trail as a way to vindicate why people should vote for him. ("Vote for me! I'm rich, and I'll make all of America rich too!")
2. His taxes would reveal questionable business dealings. It is no secret that Trump has admiration and respect for Vladimir Putin. I believe he is refusing to release his taxes because they would show questionable and even illegal business dealings with the Russian strongman and his associates.
There have also been reports that Trump has had various dealings with organized crime figures and the Mafia in relation to his casino holdings. Obviously this would not look good for somebody running for president of the United States.
Trump's pretext of being audited as a justification for not releasing his taxes is insufficient when you're running to be elected the most powerful person in the world.
So what, Trump has complied with the requirements.
Well so why is it all the Trump supporters are asking for transcripts of Hillary's wall street speeches? This speaks to how you made your money not just who made your money from.. If you concur with that then why is it not fair game to ask Trump how he valuates his companies and more important what connections his companies may have to foreign influence.
For all we know Trump is overleveraged with foreign debt.
I don't care about Trump's tax returns and I don't care about Hillary's speeches to Wall St. This is all just noise and distractions and we're going to hear a lot of this silliness until the debates.
I believe there is a twofold answer into the question of Trump's missing tax returns:
1. He is not worth nearly as much as he claims. Trump claims to be worth in excess of $10bn, quite a hefty sum. He regularly flaunts his wealth and net worth on the campaign trail as a way to vindicate why people should vote for him. ("Vote for me! I'm rich, and I'll make all of America rich too!")
2. His taxes would reveal questionable business dealings. It is no secret that Trump has admiration and respect for Vladimir Putin. I believe he is refusing to release his taxes because they would show questionable and even illegal business dealings with the Russian strongman and his associates.
There have also been reports that Trump has had various dealings with organized crime figures and the Mafia in relation to his casino holdings. Obviously this would not look good for somebody running for president of the United States.
Trump's pretext of being audited as a justification for not releasing his taxes is insufficient when you're running to be elected the most powerful person in the world.
(1) For the thousandth time, tax returns do not show net worth.
(2) If there is anything illegal in his returns, the IRS would be all over Trump. After 15 years of annual audits, they haven't found anything yet.
Your attempt to connect Trump to foreign influence is laughable.
No candidate is more influenced by foreign power that Hillary. There is no denying the documented fact that the Clinton Foundation has received hundreds of million in contributions from foreign donors. It is also well documented that hundreds of million were funneled into the Clinton Foundation from people that had matters before the State Department while Hillary was SoS. Bill then received lucrative speaking engagements from these very same people.
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Originally Posted by vacoder
Well so why is it all the Trump supporters asking for transcripts of Hillary's wall street speeches? This speaks to how you made your money not just who made your money from.. If you concur wit that why is it not fair game to ask Trump how he valuates his companies and more important what connections his companies may have to foreign influence.
For all we know Trump is overleveraged with foreign debt.
Trump already released his financials to the FEC showing his cash flow, so sorry, he isn't overleveraged.
Again, don't be absurd by questioning Trumps connections to foreign nations while completely ignoring the well documented foreign influence over both Hillary, and her husband.
(1) For the thousandth time, tax returns do not show net worth.
(2) If there is anything illegal in his returns, the IRS would be all over Trump. After 15 years of annual audits, they haven't found anything yet.
Your attempt to connect Trump to foreign influence is laughable.
No candidate is more influenced by foreign power that Hillary. There is no denying the documented fact that the Clinton Foundation has received hundreds of million in contributions from foreign donors. It is also well documented that hundreds of million were funneled into the Clinton Foundation from people that had matters before the State Department while Hillary was SoS. Bill then received lucrative speaking engagements from these very same people.
Trump already released his financials to the FEC showing his cash flow, so sorry, he isn't overleveraged.
Again ,don't be absurd by questioning Trumps connections to foreign nations while completely ignoring Hillary long and well documented to foreign influence over both her, and her husband.
Apparently you cannot read. Booth candidates have complied with FEC filings. Only one candidate has gone further in also releasing their tax return. The argument often is that Clinton should release HOW she made her money if Wall St. speeches. I am fine with that requirement but that means Trump needs to show how he made his money.
Apparently you cannot read. Booth candidates have complied with FEC filings. Only one candidate has gone further in also releasing their tax return. The argument often is that Clinton should release HOW she made her money if Wall St. speeches. I am fine with that requirement but that means Trump needs to show how he made his money.
What do you not agree with?
I've said many times on here that a candidate's tax returns are not relevant, and are none of the public's business.
The truth is that Republicans don't care about Hillary's Wall St. speeches, we know she is completely owned by the donor class.
What she said in the speeches is irrelevant, the issue is that the banks were paying her not for speeches, but for influence.
I've said many times on here that a candidate's tax returns are not relevant, and are none of the public's business.
The truth is that Republicans don't care about Hillary's Wall St. speeches, we know she is completely owned by the donor class.
What she said in the speeches is irrelevant, the issue is that the banks were paying her not for speeches, but for influence.
Ah. Conspiracy theory.
Well here is one. Trump is way over leveraged in his properties. The lion share of his valuation is based on golf courses. Golf courses have a notoriously low resale value versus valuation. I other words they sell far less than the asking price. It is completely possible that Trump needs a cash infusion and hence his running for president.
See how things work? You immediately gravitate to Clinton being unethical yet you ignore the same signs of your preferred candidate.
Well here is one. Trump is way over leveraged in his properties. The lion share of his valuation is based on golf courses. Golf courses have a notoriously low resale value versus valuation. I other words they sell far less than the asking price. It is completely possible that Trump needs a cash infusion and hence his running for president.
See how things work? You immediately gravitate to Clinton being unethical yet you ignore the same signs of your preferred candidate.
The problem is that Trump's financials he released show he is not overleveraged.
Nobody, including Democrats believe that Hillary is not owned by the donor class.
Don't start with the conspiracy theory stuff, you're the one trying to make some kind sinister connection with Trump, and Putin.
Seriously, you have completely failed to make any kind of point here, so if you want to attack Trump, you are going to have to find something legitimate.
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