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Old 08-06-2016, 06:53 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Today's news:

"U.S. national security officials are literally laughing at Donald Trump’s claim that he watched a “top secret” Iranian military-produced video showing its government scurrying to grab pallets filled with hundreds of millions of dollars."

U.S. Officials Literally Laughing at Donald Trump


Fortunately, i it was not from an actual national security briefing but a Fox news B roll. Also, it never actually happened.

Nonetheless, it wasn't "exactly a reassuring answer for members of the U.S. national security community who are already nervous that Trump could say or tweet classified information. Rather it confirmed their already existing fears that sensitive information could be mistreated—and now made up all together."



This might be today's , however the day is not over yet.
He has corrected that since, which you fail to mention. I wonder why.
He mistook the night-time clip for the current news story (which the Dems would love to distract us from).

"Let's talk about anything but the ransom money..."

Besides, how is this as 'bad' as Hillary lying about personally dodging bullets?

 
Old 08-06-2016, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Trump is no genius. But, neither is he a fool, an idiot, nor crazy. Trump is calculating.

Whatever his intentions - be it destroying the GOP, ensuring his endorsers bare his stamp and brand for life, etc. - he knows exactly what he's doing.

He's gonna make sure he doesn't come out a loser, even if he loses to Hillary.

In one way or another, Trump is gonna come out on top no matter the ravages left in the wake of his unbridled path.

And even though this all seems like a very bad dream, this is the stuff of history.

Movies will be filmed. Books will be written. And we - especially Trump himself - will talk about this for generations.

Your thoughts?
I believe you are overestimating the importance of a self-absorbed bloviator. He has damaged his brand, and it will take years to come back if it does. I do not think anyone but his cult will be interested in reading about him, seeing him on tv, or seeing a film about him (other than a film like 'Game Change').

He will be relegated to the dustbins of cable tv should he decide to start a channel where he can still attract attention all the time from his fanbase. He will give paid speeches to groups that make up his cult.

As far as his businesses--they've been doing increasingly badly during his campaign. Not sure what he can do about the damage to the brand.

Trump hotels and casino traffic has taken a huge hit since Trump started running for president

New data reveals the damage Trump's campaign has done to his hotel empire
 
Old 08-06-2016, 08:57 AM
 
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He has corrected that since, which you fail to mention. I wonder why.
It took him two days--and a whole lot of public ridicule--to finally "correct" himself? And that's after he doubled down and repeated this claim multiple times over those two days. You fail to mention that. I wonder why?

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He mistook the night-time clip for the current news story (which the Dems would love to distract us from).
Yeah, he's a real mental giant, all right. He sees a clip on Fox News and by the next day he already forgets where he saw it and thinks it was a "top secret" video he saw.

And if he believed it was "top secret" why was he talking about it in the first place? This is the man you want to trust with our security--a guy who not only can't distinguish between a Fox News clip and a top secret security briefing, but who thinks it's okay to talk about what he believes is something that is top secret?

You should never, ever make another single derogatory remark about Clinton's emails after this. But of course, you will.
 
Old 08-06-2016, 11:47 AM
 
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I like Trump. I don't like all of the nastiness that is going on in this election.

People talk about how many times Trump has been married but never mention the bj
's Bill Clinton was getting from young interns and Hillary stood by his side. I can only guess for her own personal gain. What woman wants to stay with her husband knowing that a young girl was sucking on it while his own teenage daughter was nearby. Just that fact alone makes me want to throw the entire Clinton family out the window. That doesn't connect with my family values.
"Family values" and Trump? The guy is a serial adulterer who replaces his wives with hotter models when they age out.

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I think that what it comes down to is that the country needs to be run like a business
No, it bloody well doesn't. This is a pernicious, dangerous idea. Countries are run to secure the safety and welfare and freedom of all their citizens. Businesses are run to maximize ROI for investors. There could hardly be two more different entities.
 
Old 08-07-2016, 10:13 AM
 
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I believe you are overestimating the importance of a self-absorbed bloviator. He has damaged his brand, and it will take years to come back if it does. I do not think anyone but his cult will be interested in reading about him, seeing him on tv, or seeing a film about him (other than a film like 'Game Change').

He will be relegated to the dustbins of cable tv should he decide to start a channel where he can still attract attention all the time from his fanbase. He will give paid speeches to groups that make up his cult.

As far as his businesses--they've been doing increasingly badly during his campaign. Not sure what he can do about the damage to the brand.

Trump hotels and casino traffic has taken a huge hit since Trump started running for president

New data reveals the damage Trump's campaign has done to his hotel empire

Well, be he self absorbed or not, Trump is of weighty importance, given that he is the GOP Presidential Candidate. Unfortunately, his bombastic rhetoric has speedily damaged the GOP. From this moment forth, the GOP will be forever known and remembered as the party of Trump. And those who've endorsed him - from paul ryan on down - will be branded for speaking out of both sides of their mouths.
 
Old 08-07-2016, 10:38 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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It took him two days--and a whole lot of public ridicule--to finally "correct" himself? And that's after he doubled down and repeated this claim multiple times over those two days. You fail to mention that. I wonder why?

Yeah, he's a real mental giant, all right. He sees a clip on Fox News and by the next day he already forgets where he saw it and thinks it was a "top secret" video he saw.

And if he believed it was "top secret" why was he talking about it in the first place? This is the man you want to trust with our security--a guy who not only can't distinguish between a Fox News clip and a top secret security briefing, but who thinks it's okay to talk about what he believes is something that is top secret?

You should never, ever make another single derogatory remark about Clinton's emails after this. But of course, you will.
Oh my. How long was it before Hillary finally conceded that she 'short-circuited' regarding the conflicting information coming from Comey and herself about her e-mails? Note, she hasn't admitted wrongdoing. She just 'short-circuited'. Do we want someone who 'short-circuits' running the country?

And how many times did Hillary, for how long, repeat her claims about Benghazi and the video, and about her scandalous extremely negligent handling of her e-mails?

Top Secret? - it was on TV. How top secret can it be except that it's a description (i.e. "highly secret") operation, done in the middle of the night with an unmarked plane. Be real.

Yes, in general terms it can be referred to as a top secret transfer of ransom money.

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"Family values" and Trump? The guy is a serial adulterer who replaces his wives with hotter models when they age out.

No, it bloody well doesn't. This is a pernicious, dangerous idea. Countries are run to secure the safety and welfare and freedom of all their citizens. Businesses are run to maximize ROI for investors. There could hardly be two more different entities.
Well, you might say, if you believe he's a "serial adulterer" as you call him, that he reflects American values. Isn't that what the direction the country is going in in terms of values? Conservative/family 'values' are frowned upon except when they can be used to batter someone who is not liked. Convenient, isn't it.
Besides, it's his private life. Aren't libs always whining about how what you do in your private lives is no concern of others? I could see you complain about what Presidents have done while in office, but I'm not hearing that from any of you at the moment.

As for ROI, haven't you heard Democrats continually use their favorite word, "investment", when referring to more spending, more government regulations, more taxing? It's supposed to inspire us to believe there will be greater benefit for society, e.g. "return on investment" HA. WE are the investors and there SHOULD (finally) be REAL return to the people and the country for that. So far, we aren't seeing it and Hillary isn't going to deliver it.
 
Old 08-07-2016, 10:43 AM
 
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Well, you might say, if you believe he's a "serial adulterer" as you call him, that he reflects American values. Isn't that what the direction the country is going in in terms of values? Conservative/family 'values' are frowned upon except when they can be used to batter someone who is not liked. Convenient, isn't it.
Ehm - the poster praised Trump as being in line with his/her "family values". And Trump doesn't walk the walk in that respect.

I for one don't give much of a hoot as long as everyone involved is of age, consents, and they don't do it in the streets and frighten the horses.
 
Old 08-07-2016, 10:47 AM
 
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I think Hillary should take a page from Trump's book when it comes to the emails. Just like he refuses to talk about his birther days (note no one asks him anymore) ~ Hillary should just say - asked and answered - next question.
 
Old 08-07-2016, 10:52 AM
 
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As for ROI, haven't you heard Democrats continually use their favorite word, "investment", when referring to more spending, more government regulations, more taxing? It's supposed to inspire us to believe there will be greater benefit for society, e.g. "return on investment"...
I find it a very poor simile, truth be told. But even going with it, ROI in governmental terms - as you put it, greater benefit - is pretty vague and substantially different from ROI in business terms, which boils down to well-defined economic advantage in almost all cases. It's a substantially different way of using the term.
 
Old 08-07-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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I find it a very poor simile, truth be told. But even going with it, ROI in governmental terms - as you put it, greater benefit - is pretty vague and substantially different from ROI in business terms, which boils down to well-defined economic advantage in almost all cases. It's a substantially different way of using the term.
True, but as we know Democrats and especially this Administration has a penchant for changing words and giving them new meanings.
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