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I was disappointed when Sanders sold out, but I am sure he was under threat of something from the Clintons. Better not a candidate than pushing up daisies.
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I was disappointed when Sanders sold out, but I am sure he was under threat of something from the Clintons. Better not a candidate than pushing up daisies.
Show up late often.
Look Bernie said from the beginning he was going to support the democratic nominee. And that's what he did. He more honor than the 2 S****bird canidates we got for election night.
Look Bernie said from the beginning he was going to support the democratic nominee. And that's what he did. He more honor than the 2 S****bird canidates we got for election night.
He did say he would do that. It is hard to condemn a politician that does what they say as that is pretty rare. Supporting Hillary did hurt him though.
I've said it before that Trump won when he raised his hand in the debate to say he would not support the (R) candidate no matter who he was. I was happy to see him do that even if I didn't personally support him. It was the right position to take. One should not throw their principles aside for the sake of a party.
I like Rand Paul. It was obvious that Rand and Christie were worlds apart on what they believed. I was very dissapointed that Rand didn't raise his hand.
While Sanders did live up to his word which is commendable, he never should have said it in the first place. Hillary stood for nearly everything he was against. How can you support that just because of party?
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He did say he would do that. It is hard to condemn a politician that does what they say as that is pretty rare. Supporting Hillary did hurt him though.
I've said it before that Trump won when he raised his hand in the debate to say he would not support the (R) candidate no matter who he was. I was happy to see him do that even if I didn't personally support him. It was the right position to take. One should not throw their principles aside for the sake of a party.
I like Rand Paul. It was obvious that Rand and Christie were worlds apart on what they believed. I was very dissapointed that Rand didn't raise his hand.
While Sanders did live up to his word which is commendable, he never should have said it in the first place. Hillary stood for nearly everything he was against. How can you support that just because of party?
1. Did the support he gave Hillary hurt his credibility? Probably. But how deep the resentment I don't know. Maybe you do.
2. As to sticking to political principles. I personally don't have political principles. I have political agendas. Agendas that I wish to come to fruition. I'm willing to work with who ever will best help me to achieve that. Even if my agendas aren't fully realized to the exact result I want. If it is close. I willing to deal with it.
I think for Bernie at the end of the day would have supported Clinton no matter what. For similar reason I stated above. He probably felt he could best make at least some of his overall agenda come to fruition by trading his support for some say in the democratic platform.
Now. That not to say that Bernie wouldn't take more heat if he hadn't taken pledged to support the democratic nominee and then end up doing so. In fact perhaps he would have been mostly abandoned by his supporters if he did so. But for me. And my overly cynical point of view it seem the reasonable thing to do.
Call it sellout if you wish.....but it just doesn't bother all that much.
If I may now.
I know there are some that felt that if Bernie joined the Green Party that he could have still run and stuck to his principles. And perhaps that true. But I think he saw the same problem I did with the Green Party. That is while the Green Party does state a political Philosophy.....I do fine at the end of the day that the party is a cult of personality that revolves almost exclusively around Jill Stein. I remember going to the Green party's website and trying to find folk running for house seats and senate seat for the us congress. And honesty at the time I saw no promotion for any other canidates other than Jill Stein. So I said "ok I guess they have nobody running" closed the website and walked away. Then a couple weeks later I listen to NPR and they start talking about a race in Maryland that had a Green Party canidate in it. I say and said "what?" So soon after I went on google find this canidate and low and behold. A got a name and a title Dr. Margaret Flowers. So went back on the Green Party website looking to see it they were promoting her aaaaand nothing just more Jill Stein. I actually had to dig through their new section to find that that actually had some canidates out there that were running for congress. WTF? This is not (from my pov) how to build up a Party's power in order to affect change. Enough Jill Stein! Start promoting those guys going for house seats! Build your power base! Arrrgggh!
Anyways methinks Bernie saw 1. He could get more done being with democrats. 2. Possibly saw the futility of become a supporter/canidate for the Green Party.
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