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ok, I've watched this forum long enough to notice a pattern.
Obama supporters seem to hate Clinton almost as much as the Republicans hate her.
Clinton supporters seem to hate Obama almost as much as the KKK does.
Both candidates are VERY similar in their plans and I bet if someone was to post a quote from either one of their plans, no one would be able to know the difference or guess who stated it..
Am I the only one trying to figure out whats going on and trying to figure out why all the hatred for each other on the left?
No, I am trying to figure it out as well. I'm leaning more towards Obama, but if he were to lose, I'd vote for Hillary.
I don't think it's even about the issues any more. Nobody is going to change anybody's mind on this board. I think at this point, it's sour grapes on Hillary's side because it seems to me like there is alot more Obama bashing going on since he passed her up in the delegate showdown.
I have my reasons for.....disliking Clinton, I'll vote for McCain before I would vote for her. As for the Obama hate, it seems to stem from mostly three things
1. He supposedly lacks "experience"
2. The belief that he lacks substance
3. Anger at the fact that this nobody Senator with a funny last name, who couldn't even get in to the DNC back in 00 has effectively usurped her.
Does seem like a lot of Dems here expending a lot of Obama vs. Clinton hate, whereas that hate should be directed at McCain no matter who wins on the Dem side. The two Dems are two very slightly different peas in a pod when compared to the incumbent or McCain . . .
I like Obama, I don't like McCain or Hillary...not sure what I will do if Hillary is the nominee. I know I will not vote for her. I cannot trust her and I think she is just wrong for this country. The thought of voting for McCain is impossible to fathom. Not sure....
I am a Republican and I don't hate either candidate. I have a great deal of respect for Clinton and would have to make a decision between her and McCain. I just don't care for someone taking one little statement like McCains saying the war might take 100 years seriously and making hay with it. That is just one example. There are many, many more that I have seen Obama do and use. I prefer a candidate to tell me why I should vote for them, not why I shouldn't vote for the other candidate. Telling me why I shouldn't vote for the other candidate is not making any point about the candidate talking. It took forever for Obama to come out and say anything. His wife made me curious when she was talking at the first states. What she said turned me totally off and I was curious at the crowds reaction. Did they not listen to her tell them how her husband was going to take their money and give it to someone else. I am not a socialist and although I don't like Hillary's health plan, she seems to have a more logical way to finish the war. He seems just absolutely irresponsible. I don't think congress would jump on Hillary's band wagon as fast as they would Obama's. I will probably vote for the Republican candidate, but these people are running for president and I think they all deserve to have us listen to their ideas. I am not going to vote for anyone because they can influence other people when I don't like what their influence would bring about.
I guess I am basically saying that I don't want the USA to go where Obama wants to lead them and that is into socialism. Hillary is a little more balanced in her thinking.
When I took the little test with issues and candidates, Huckabee was the person most in line with my values and issues. The way it looks now, I will probably vote for McCain in the main election, but I really liked Huckabee from the start and I had never noticed him before the debates. If Huckabees name is on the primary ticket in NC, he will get my vote. I am in agreement with him on more issues than any other candidate. I just want to let those who look at these things know how I feel about the issues.
Am I the only one trying to figure out whats going on and trying to figure out why all the hatred for each other on the left?
The Democrats are not on the left. If you understand why, then you'll see the crisis of US "democracy." Our so-called bipartisan system really isn't bipartisan at all. In other words the US has no true oppositional parties.
The presidential hopefuls only SOUND different, that's what campaigning is all about. But at bottom the principles are basically the same.
Many of the Obama supporters have been nasty -- like typical far-rightwingers -- with the "Billery" and "Hitlery" and "Hillbilly" -- and other "circa Impeachment era" cwap. It's made a lot of Clinton supporters quite angry, to be honest about it.
Another thing is that Obama is extremely liberal if you look at his record. Hillary is more of a centrist. That's a problem because a lot of Hillary supporters are more moderate and not really part of the "far left wing" of the Democratic party.
On top of all that, Obama seems to have been a member of the Senate without really staking much of a position in it. He's refrained from voting on a lot of issues. How can you figure out what he's about if he doesn't vote on a lot of things? And what does that really say -- when a person won't/can't/doesn't take a position?
Don't forget, Obama also fathered two black children. TWO!
Sorry, couldn't resist.
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