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Old 09-12-2016, 07:38 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Uh, not so fast:Is Pneumonia Contagious?

Two statements from that article:

1) " They are all potentially contagious but not as easily contagious as the flu, for example"

2) " For example, Mycobacterium and Mycoplasma organisms are highly contagious, but other types, including pneumococcal pneumonia, require optimal conditions to spread to another person and are weakly contagious."




So just what facts do you have to justify what seems like a knee-jerk shout of LIAR! ?
I would guess the fact that Hillary is a proven liar many times over?
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Old 09-12-2016, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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The media and liberals would respect it and would not make it an issue. It would barely get any press or attention. Hillary is being attacked for being a woman.

WHAT??
Trump has been attacked from every angle for things he has said, done and even things he has not said or done. The liberal media has even gone back decades trying to dig up trash on him.

If Trump collapsed there is no way they would leave it alone.


Why do you think Hillary is being attacked for being a woman? Do women collapse out of the blue?
This is not the Victorian times when women had fainting spells.


Could it be that the lost spirits that still haunt the World Trade Center site ganged up on Hillary because they see her as a continuation of the problem that killed them and not the solution?
I'm joking.
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Old 09-12-2016, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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My sister had walking pneumonia once. It really isn't as big of a deal as people seem to think it is.
Ok. I'm off work today from treating people with pneumonia. Here's the deal. Walking PNA does not cause the series of events which occurred yesterday...that was clearly a cardiac event loss of blood pressure or neurological. The body regulated blood pressure in the gut and in the head. That's why if someone feels faint we put there head down and raise their legs. PNA looks very different. It causes shortness of breath, heavy chest and potentially life threatening complications. It can be viral or bacterial. Back in the day before antibiotics it was called "the old man's friend" as it caused many deaths.

Clinton experienced a drop her in blood pressure. This could be caused by a neurological or cardiac event. Either way it was rapid, and consistent with heat stroke, pain, or what is known as a vagal reaction. In these times the most dangerous part is a fall where a person hits their head.

PNA (even walking pneumonia) does not look like what occurred. And yet..an MD has diagnosed her with PNA. That's no small deal. It can easily require hospitalization, and many treatments including IV antibiotics, respiratory support and more. People who have PNA don't collapse and then 2 hours later appear cheerful without shortness of breath and walking as she did.

With all the deception as a med professional it's shameful and sad to me to watch these men and women who worked for years to earn their MD degree, forced to conceal, lie and fabricate. They are now compromised in the view of the medical community.

She is poison to truth, an anathema to integrity. The next few days will tell us much about her health. The debate is only 2 weeks away. She will have to stand for 90 plus minutes.
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Old 09-12-2016, 07:53 AM
 
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Did she have it for over a year without knowing it? Did you have to "spot" her in case she passed out? If your sister had the episode that Hillary had yesterday, would you have just taken her home or to the emergency room?

Yeah, I don't think we can really compare this to a "normal" situation. Either Hillary has had it over a year and it was missed, she is having bouts of pneumonia related to her disease or she is lying.
I think she had it for 2-3 months before it was diagnosed.
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Old 09-12-2016, 07:57 AM
 
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"Hillary is being attacked for being a woman"


I know you're being sarcastic OP, but this was actually a conversation on CNN last night.


Forget the fact we have a presidential candidate with so many health issues they can't walk without help and was just dragged into a vehicle after losing consciousness; forget all that.


The real tragedy is that this entire episode of Hillary's had a 'misogynistic undertone' because of the stereotype that women are physically weaker than men is playing out before our eyes.


Not only that, Trump needs to release his tax returns and his own medical records because the sole focus on Hillary is totally sexist.
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Old 09-12-2016, 07:59 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Ok. I'm off work today from treating people with pneumonia. Here's the deal. Walking PNA does not cause the series of events which occurred yesterday...that was clearly a cardiac event loss of blood pressure or neurological. The body regulated blood pressure in the gut and in the head. That's why if someone feels faint we put there head down and raise their legs. PNA looks very different. It causes shortness of breath, heavy chest and potentially life threatening complications. It can be viral or bacterial. Back in the day before antibiotics it was called "the old man's friend" as it caused many deaths.

Clinton experienced a drop her in blood pressure. This could be caused by a neurological or cardiac event. Either way it was rapid, and consistent with heat stroke, pain, or what is known as a vagal reaction. In these times the most dangerous part is a fall where a person hits their head.

PNA (even walking pneumonia) does not look like what occurred. And yet..an MD has diagnosed her with PNA. That's no small deal. It can easily require hospitalization, and many treatments including IV antibiotics, respiratory support and more. People who have PNA don't collapse and then 2 hours later appear cheerful without shortness of breath and walking as she did.

With all the deception as a med professional it's shameful and sad to me to watch these men and women who worked for years to earn their MD degree, forced to conceal, lie and fabricate. They are now compromised in the view of the medical community.

She is poison to truth, an anathema to integrity. The next few days will tell us much about her health. The debate is only 2 weeks away. She will have to stand for 90 plus minutes.
If you're in the medical field you should lose your license for diagnosing a person you've never met, never seen test results for and for spreading lies or mis-information about said person online.
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Old 09-12-2016, 08:11 AM
 
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... It has more to do with can she handle to pressures ahead of her?
Hillary can handle the pressures of president better than Trump. Trump loses his temper under pressure. He'd be wreaking havoc with other countries, with senators from both parties, with the house of reps. Trump is terrible under pressure and even the Trump supporters know this.

So yeah, Clinton will be much better under pressure than Trump.
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Old 09-12-2016, 08:27 AM
 
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Quite the opposite. The media has been trying to bring down Trump since the beginning. They would declare him dead if he had pneumonia and declare Hillary the winner.

"She doesn't have the stamina to be president" -- Trump
The media became afraid of Trump, once they realized that he was willing to resort to any tactic to win this election. They give him FAR more rope than any previous candidate to make statements that are outright lies, and have become quite tolerant of his grade school Twitter comments and insults. Trump threatened to weaken First Amendment protections for reporters, remember? He cannot abide anyone opposing him.
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Old 09-12-2016, 08:40 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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If you're in the medical field you should lose your license for diagnosing a person you've never met, never seen test results for and for spreading lies or mis-information about said person online.
Oh so you should be punished for having an opinion? Or is only if the opinion is about Hillary?
We all have opinions including you.
My opinion is that Hillary is an elitist snob who is allergic to anything even resembling the truth. She has a long demonstrated history of lying, being rude to those she feels are beneath her and she has enabled her sexual predator husband for decades.
Hillary deserves very little compassion as she has none for anyone else.
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Old 09-12-2016, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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The media and liberals would respect it and would not make it an issue. It would barely get any press or attention. Hillary is being attacked for being a woman.
That is a bunch of baloney. The media and the liberals attack Trump for anything and everything and you know it.

Trump was on TV this morning and wished Clinton well regarding her health concerns. I would like to think the leftists and the media would do the same for him, but I doubt it.
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