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I think absolutely no one <5% on this board is undecided, is there anyone here that is not decided and that had the posting history to back it up, you cant say i am an independent that's undecided and have 20+ killary posts.
Nobody, not here anyway. I have yet to meet an "undecided" voter. This is mostly creation of the media so they can put on their focus group dog and pony show. The so-called undecideds are those who don't end up voting.
As a democrat many folks here believe that I will vote twice due to corruption. So I am not decided on whether to vote for HRC 2x or not in Ohio, while I am from NY lol.
I'm undecided. For a while I was going to vote for Gary Johnson, but I may not because I've lost a lot of confidence in him (not that I ever expected him to win, but I wanted to vote with my conscious).
Why am I undecided? I always am because I don't fall neatly into either a liberal or conservative stance. I am a little bit of both. I am liberal on some issues and conservative on others.
I don't like either Clinton or Trump very much so I've been most watching and listening. It's hard for me because a lot of what Clinton wants isn't what I believe and want. But on the other hand, Trump doesn't seem to offer much substance and he's said a lot of dangerous and inflammatory things in a very unpresidential way.
I want an outsider to shake things up because it seems like nothing gets done (but not Trump because he seems too much like a loose cannon and I can't see Congress working with him to get things done). I also want someone who thinks things through, is a careful planner and can get things done (But I don't particularly like Clinton's track record).
The followers of both side don't help either. I've been called stupid, uninformed, etc for not agreeing 100% with either side. Not to my face exactly, but it's implied though Facebook posts and such "if you vote for (or don't vote for)___ you are ____." Mostly I just keep to myself and observe. Like I do here, where I mostly lurk and read.
I also get sick of all the half truths, downright lies, exaggerations, etc that people seem to spew all the time. It's like no one can be bothered to do a simple fact check anymore. I can't believe anything I read about either candidate without doing a bunch of research myself.
It's also like no one can or wants to talk about substance. It's all more like some kind of sporting even where fans route for their side and mock the other side. I swear every time either Clinton or Trump goes off on some tangent about the past that is not going to matter in the future... Trump's taxes, Clinton's husband's infidelity, whatever... I lose respect for the side that brings it up. Why? Because it means that really can't think of anything worthwhile or important to talk about and they are appealing on an emotional mudslinging level, not a logical level.
So I've been watching the candidates. Reading their websites. Reading editorials. Listening to friends talk about their candidates. Watching the debates. Doing my own fact checking. And, lurking here and reading these forums too and what people have to say. Just absorbing what I can so I can make the best decision I can come November. The presidential race this year is the toughest one for me.
I would imagine most undecided/independents are like me for the same reasons. Quiet... and just paying attention to it all and holding their cards close to their proverbial chests.
On the bright side, I already know what local politicians I am voting for and how I am voting on local referendums.
I want an outsider to shake things up because it seems like nothing gets done
I hear this a lot, but I don't understand it. Think over the last eight years. Does it really seem like nothing got done? Obamacare is certainly a big policy -- probably the biggest new law passed in the last decade or two. One can say they don't agree with the things that have been done, but I don't understand the claim that nothing gets done.
IMO, most of the "anti-establishment" folks are ones who simply feel like "their America" is slipping away from them. They tend to be conservative white folks, and they suddenly have to share this country with a lot of people who look, think and act differently. The Republican politicians they have elected have, for the most part, been unwilling to do things like completely shut down the federal government over issues like Planned Parenthood, so they now want someone who is "anti-establishment."
Why we want a person who has zero relevant experience doing the most important job in the country is beyond me.
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