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Originally Posted by chadgates
It doesn't matter if you care for it or not. It doesn't even matter that some may see it as a direct contradiction of Matthew 6:5.
The ONLY thing that matters is the 1st Amendment specifically defines his actions as protected. The state may NOT rule against his actions. Period.
Actually, the First Amendment only mentions Congress, NOT the state.
And please tell us, how many do you think would be defending the man had he thrown down a prayer rug and faced Mecca for his little prayer? Or is the belief that only certain religions are protected?
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There could NOT be a more blatant example of misunderstanding the 1st amendment.
The 1st amendment defines the protection AGAINST the GOV'T to be allowed TO LIVE OUT YOUR FAITH IN YOUR EVERY DAY LIFE.
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That is PRECISELY what the first amendment was written to protect.
Your misinterpretation is EXACTLY why my initial statement was SPOT ON.
There are many, especially those on the left, who want to confine religious expression to inside the walls of the church.
Except of course the First Amendment only prohibits Congress from making laws about religion, NOT the state.
So just WHO is it misunderstanding the First Amendment here?
Actually, the First Amendment only mentions Congress, NOT the state.
And please tell us, how many do you think would be defending the man had he thrown down a prayer rug and faced Mecca for his little prayer? Or is the belief that only certain religions are protected?
That act of throwing down a prayer rug and facing Mecca IS A PROTECTED RIGHT. PERIOD
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That act of throwing down a prayer rug and facing Mecca IS A PROTECTED RIGHT. PERIOD
Not from state law it isn't.
I don't care if your religion requires you to cut the head off a chicken and dance in a circle spilling its blood, but I don't expect to have to watch that at a public event.
I don't care if your religion requires you to cut the head off a chicken and dance in a circle spilling its blood, but I don't expect to have to watch that at a public event.
Are you trying to argue that a state may make a law that violates a right defined by the US Constitution?
Are you trying to argue the Constitution defines a right to practice religion on public property?
Are you aware that Congress opens EACH AND EVERY session with prayer? Are you aware that the VERY MEN who wrote the separation clause participated and sanctioned this opening prayer?
Are you suggesting that these very men who wrote the 1st amendment were in violation of that 1st amendment?
Do I see some hypocrisy there? You talk about religious people getting out of people's bedrooms and you turn about and talk about how immoral Trump and how unfit to be president because he committed adultery?
Hypocrisy? for sure.
But it's church people who have their knickers in a knot about adultery. Not me. Who Trump sleeps with his business and whichever woman he is married to at the time. I don't care.
I just think it is odd that church people are supporting the man. He doesn't seem their type. Pence maybe, but not Trump
I think Trump is unfit to be President because he's incompetent and dangerous. He doesn't know what he is talking about and thinks everybody is as impressed with his B.S. as he is. Even the Taliban have his number.
By the way, my fellow isn't home at night because of something a pastor or a priest said on Sunday. He's here because he knows if isn't, he moves to the back of the line. Just saying.
Last edited by GotHereQuickAsICould; 10-07-2016 at 01:25 PM..
Are you trying to argue the Constitution defines a right to practice religion on public property?
Besides, IF God is all knowing, and WHAT'S a God if not all knowing, he/she'd know what's in your heart so why the need to make a display?
IMO Matthew hit the nail squarely on the head!
So let's pretend that the whole crux of the matter is the "public event" angle. It is wrong, but for the sake of argument let's say that is the determining factor.
Then explain example #2 from my list (since you pretty much wrote off the whole list by doing a 2 second google search on the 1st one).
For your convenience I will name him again for you:
Oscar Rodriguez Jr. - Retired AF vet.
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