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I have no idea if Donald Trump is guilty of anything that is alleged, and I'm skeptical that anyone here has any actual knowledge, either. So how is it that so many people here seem to know with certainty that Trump is innocent regarding all of the accusations? At a minimum, wouldn't a position of uncertainty be required?
If you don't know X, you shouldn't assert X. If you don't know Trump is innocent, then you should assert "Trump is innocent." The corollary is also true: if you don't know Trump is guilty, you shouldn't assert that he is.
I posted this in a different thread on this topic analyzing three different position one might have on the allegations.
"I was a Trump supporter. But unfortunately, yes, I'm done with Trump because I believe these allegations": Most people thinking this way are long gone from this forum, or have adopted a new handle. They would be burned at the stake by the Alt-right hard liners.
"No, I'm still Team Trump even though he has done these things": At least this is logical; you realize that most if not all of these allegations are true, but you simply don't care. Maybe you even applaud them, and incorporate Donald's misogynistic "values" into your own life.
"No, I'm still Team Trump and all 11 women are lying": Anyone thinking this way is either in total denial, or they are willfully ignorant, or they are lying (they know it's true but parrot the cult's message anyway). Hard to wrap your mind around the pretzel logic needed to take this stance. Same mindset as the "rigged election" folks.
both to the American people and under oath. But remember, back then it was "just sex".
And it was just sex in the case of Monica Lewinsky. Did she ever claim to be forced?
The women accusing Trump are not saying they simply had affairs with him. We all know he has never been faithful to his wives. They're saying he was inappropriate. A 13 year old says he raped her. There's a difference.
Yeah, and it sounds like that really turned Trump on.
Ken
I don't believe her period. In fact, she is the most unbelievable one yet.
So, doesn't really shed any light on whether or not porn stars turn Trump on. And if they do, who cares. Judging by the amount of money porn brings in, lots of men are turned on by them.
It appears Miss porn star opened a online sex store the day before having the courage to come forward. Purely coincidence I'm sure.
So you're saying Ms Aging Porn Star who needs to beef up her side line gigs is doing all this for publicity of her online store as everyone in America(esp men) google to see who she is?
I don't believe her period. In fact, she is the most unbelievable one yet.
So, doesn't really shed any light on whether or not porn stars turn Trump on. And if they do, who cares. Judging by the amount of money porn brings in, lots of men are turned on by them.
Including apparently Donald J. Trump.
"...In 2003, when Melania was younger and presumably even hotter, Trump admitted to radio host Howard Stern that although he had known Paris Hilton since she was 12, it didn’t stop him and then-girlfriend Melania from ogling her sex tape. Trump told Stern, “Now, somebody who a lot of people don’t give credit to but is in actuality very beautiful is Paris Hilton. I’ve known Paris Hilton from the time she’s 12, her parents are friends of mine, and the first time I saw her she walked into the room and I said, ‘Who the hell is that?’ At 12, I wasn’t interested… but she was beautiful.” The Daily Beast reported that Trump “also admitted to watching Paris Hilton’s sex tape with Knauss, despite knowing her since the age of 12 and being very close friends with the Hilton Family.”..."
Regardless of what Trump is accused of voters should ask why this tape and sexual accusations did not surface during the republican primary.
It is obvious that the news media had this info in their arsenal and did not use it during the republican primary. Withholding this info from the republican primary indicates that perhaps Trump was played to win in order to give the election to Clinton in the end game.
Secondly, comparing the both Clinton and Trump let's assume Trump is a pig and likes to grope women. Now look at Clinton. Hillary voted for the Iraq war that killed 8,000 American military men and women, injured 40,000, more, and killed somewhere around 1 million Iraqis. Her decision cost the American taxpayer almost $2 trillion dollars. Her actions destabilized the middle east of which the world has suffered immensely. Not to mention Clinton's actions allowing four brave Americans to die in Benghazi and her remarks about the incident to congress, "let's just move on."
I don't know about you but I would rather have the guy who grabbed a few asses than the one whose poor decisions killed over a million innocent men, women, and children.
Yep and don't forget Gloria said she had the info on her first client "before politics even became involved". She was also a delegate for Hillary in the primaries.
America you've been had by the Clintons, their friends and the media.
"...In 2003, when Melania was younger and presumably even hotter, Trump admitted to radio host Howard Stern that although he had known Paris Hilton since she was 12, it didn’t stop him and then-girlfriend Melania from ogling her sex tape. Trump told Stern, “Now, somebody who a lot of people don’t give credit to but is in actuality very beautiful is Paris Hilton. I’ve known Paris Hilton from the time she’s 12, her parents are friends of mine, and the first time I saw her she walked into the room and I said, ‘Who the hell is that?’ At 12, I wasn’t interested… but she was beautiful.” The Daily Beast reported that Trump “also admitted to watching Paris Hilton’s sex tape with Knauss, despite knowing her since the age of 12 and being very close friends with the Hilton Family.”..."
Gee, I don't know - maybe that Trump is a sleezeball perv?
Ken
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