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Old 10-15-2016, 04:21 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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It turns out, it's Carlos Slim, mega donor to Hillary Clinton, her campaign and the Clinton Foundation. Do we need any more evidence that the allegations against Trump are contrived, and paid for?

My favorite is the one who said after she had been touched "inappropriately" they shared a Club sandwich!

Also the one who phoned from a number at the Clinton Foundation!
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Old 10-15-2016, 06:13 AM
 
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Blame the Mexicans and blame the ugly lying chicks. That's the defense before the election ?
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Old 10-15-2016, 06:24 AM
 
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Also the one who phoned from a number at the Clinton Foundation!
How about actually checking sources. Don't let facts get in the way of opinions.

Trump Accuser Jessica Leads Tied to Clinton Foundation-Fiction!
https://www.truthorfiction.com/trump...on-foundation/

Jessica Leeds, a woman who accused Donald Trump of sexually assaulting her in the 1980s, does not have the same phone number as the Clinton Foundation,*...
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Old 10-15-2016, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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How many police reports do we have on the sexual assaults? Can someone give a link to them? Was Trump actually charged with sexual assault and what were the results?

Who knows what the word "alleged" means? Obviously not a heck of a lot of people!

When one takes time to connect the dots, it doesn't take long to come up with the image of a snake when it comes to the Clinton camp.

Also, at this point, the Clinton camp has a lot of money to throw around and "purchase" anything that they think might deflect from Hillary's trashy baggage, since as we know, Hillary wasn't on the campaign trail as she should have been due to her ill health and foul mouth that kept getting her into trouble.

So, does anyone know about the case that was filed against Trump by Jessica Leeds? It should be public record.

I just have to ask, "How many women assaulted or raped by a man would continue to meet with him alone?" Also, if a man puts his hand on your leg, how to do you know he plans to move to your crotch, especially in a public place?
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Old 10-15-2016, 07:29 AM
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Location: Florida
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How about actually checking sources. Don't let facts get in the way of opinions.

Trump Accuser Jessica Leads Tied to Clinton Foundation-Fiction!
https://www.truthorfiction.com/trump...on-foundation/

Jessica Leeds, a woman who accused Donald Trump of sexually assaulting her in the 1980s, does not have the same phone number as the Clinton Foundation,*...
But note how quick Trumpists were to believe the lie, and to repeat the lie, and even more remarkable, how many of them continue to repeat the lie even after being presented with the facts that refute the lie.
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Old 10-15-2016, 07:46 AM
 
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Attacking the NY times? Ha Ha Ha

There are at least 12 different accusers and the NY Times didn't discover all 12 of them.

Trump is a mad man if he things disparaging the newspaper, or attacking the women, will work. More women see this and will come forward to tell their story.
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Old 10-15-2016, 07:47 AM
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Who knows what the word "alleged" means? Obviously not a heck of a lot of people!
Do you? It means that there is a suspicion but no evidence. It means it can be true or false, we don't know. In a court of law, the word "alleged" has the kind of power you're implying. The frustration I hear from Trumpists though is that a political campaign isn't a court of law. Even though they themselves sought to exploit this fact, throwing accusations of "alleged" misconduct at Bill Clinton and even at Hillary Clinton, they seem to be incapable of acknowledging that such accusations against Donald Trump hold just as much weight. And combined with the available objective evidence - the audio on the Access Hollywood tape - it makes the accusations against Donald Trump so much more credible than the accusations against Bill Clinton that the impact on Donald Trump's reputation, caused by his own words from his own mouth, have irretrievably sunk his campaign.

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Also, at this point, the Clinton camp has a lot of money to throw around
Yet, you hear Trumpists trying to launch zingers at Clinton about her reasonably dividing her time between campaigning, fund-raising, and preparing for debates, while Trump spends most of his time participating in ego-stroking rallies instead of responsibly preparing to address himself to the debate questions and responsibility working to raise the money to pay the costs of his campaign. With regard to the latter, perhaps he is so used to losing other people's money in his failed deals that he simply is incapable of understanding how money works in the real world.

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I just have to ask, "How many women assaulted or raped by a man would continue to meet with him alone?"
I cannot find the numbers right now. I have to do a bit more research. The closest statistic I can find is the percentage of women who remain in relationships with men who have raped them (i.e., continue to have consensual sex with the man after being raped by that man).

40%

[NCADV. (2015). Domestic violence national statistics. Retrieved from www.ncadv.org.]

Regardless, women report that they are more reticent to risk actions that could result in compounding their victimization, including reporting the crime to police who have a long history of disbelieving and otherwise re-victimizing women reporting sexual assaults. Furthermore, when men are in positions of power over women, there is even more potential risk from taking action against those men who abused them.

This is one of those things men and women who have never been sexually abused have to come to understand - that we have no basis on which to assume what is the normal reaction to being abused. Even women who have been abused have no basis on which to assume what is the normal reaction, since their own reaction may be unique. It requires both a willingness to come to understand something that may be counter-intuitive to you, or otherwise disrupt the narrative you have crafted, and the work to come into contact with many women who have had these horrible things happen to them, on their terms rather than yours, since they're the victim, and learn from what they're willing and able to share with you.

One of the best memes that will be remembered long after this campaign is this one, related to the question why these women are coming forward to accuse Trump now:

"Weird how all these women waited to come forward until they realized they weren't alone, it wasn't their fault, and we might believe them."
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Old 10-15-2016, 07:52 AM
 
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Blame the Mexicans and blame the ugly lying chicks. That's the defense before the election ?
It's all the republicans have left.
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Old 10-15-2016, 08:10 AM
 
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The person who first went after Hillary Clinton owned his own newspaper. He spent years drumming up the crap y'all still think is true.

Richard Mellon Scaife. He had a deathbed conversion. Donated to her race and had Bill speak at his funeral.

Now, let's look at Rupert Murdock, owner of newspapers and tv networks. He still vilifies Clinton on Fox even though his dil worked at the Clinton Foundation. IIRC, he also donated to her campaign last time around, or maybe it was the senate.

This is the same cognitive dissonance that has y'all parading around Bill Clinton's accusers while simultaneously saying the women who are accusing Trump are looking for fame or getting paid. It is the exact same damn thing.
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Old 10-15-2016, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It turns out, it's Carlos Slim, mega donor to Hillary Clinton, her campaign and the Clinton Foundation. Do we need any more evidence that the allegations against Trump are contrived, and paid for?

My favorite is the one who said after she had been touched "inappropriately" they shared a Club sandwich!

Also the one who phoned from a number at the Clinton Foundation!
Doesn't matter. Mr. Slim is a minority shareholder. He has no voting rights, control or power whatsoever. Sorry, but this is just a Trump-is-the-victim-of-another Mexican conspiracy. Let's revisit issue after Trump actually sues the NYT for printing the truth. Or I guess if he gets elected, maybe he will jail them in his attempts to shut down any press which displease him.

"...While Mr. Slim now becomes the company’s largest individual shareholder, control remains with the Sulzberger family, whose trust holds 83.7% of the Class B voting shares. The Class B shareholders select 9 of the 13 board members, while Class A pick the other 4..."

Carlos Slim Becomes Largest Individual New York Times Shareholder - WSJ

Donald Trump: The New York Times Is Biased Because 'It's Owned By Mexico' | Huffington Post
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