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Old 10-18-2016, 04:11 PM
 
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Do you agree with key liberals that the system gets rigged in favor of elites, banks, favored politicians, etc?
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Old 10-18-2016, 04:13 PM
 
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Nice video.
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Old 10-18-2016, 04:14 PM
 
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Not like the GOP Gerrymandering- aptly named REDMAP

'Gerrymandering On Steroids': How Republicans Stacked The Nation's Statehouses | Here & Now

Talk about rigging the system. If the Democrats were as focused as the GOP districts would be a lot less lopsided.

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It was never a secret. In 2010, the conservative political strategist Karl Rove took to the Wall Street Journal and laid out a plan to win majorities in state legislatures across the country.

"He who controls redistricting can control Congress," read the subhead to Rove's column.

The plan, which its architects dubbed REDMAP for Redistricting Majority Project, hinged on the fact that states redraw their electoral maps every 10 years according to new Census data. REDMAP targeted states where just a few statehouse seats could shift the balance to Republican control in the crucial Census year of 2010.

That plan worked spectacularly. It's why today Republicans have a majority in nearly two-thirds of the country's state legislative chambers. And it's why in 2012 Democratic statehouse candidates won 51 percent of the vote in Pennsylvania, which voted for Barack Obama in the presidential election, yet those candidates ended up with only 28 percent of the seats in the legislature.
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Old 10-18-2016, 05:48 PM
 
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Not like the GOP Gerrymandering- aptly named REDMAP

'Gerrymandering On Steroids': How Republicans Stacked The Nation's Statehouses | Here & Now

Talk about rigging the system. If the Democrats were as focused as the GOP districts would be a lot less lopsided.
So you agree - the system is rigged.

Elbridge Gerry, the original gerrymanderer was a Democrat in Massachusetts.


However, one thing that Democrats ignore is simple demographics. Look at Michigan. Democrats win the city of Detroit with 90+% of the vote...the same is true for other inner cities.

Republicans win their rural and small town districts with much smaller margins.

Any reasonable drawing of district lines will inherently favor Republicans and unreasonable drawing of district lines (having a district include inner city Detroit and a rural area far outside Detroit looking like a Salamander) will favor Democrats.
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Old 10-18-2016, 05:53 PM
 
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So you agree - the system is rigged.

Elbridge Gerry, the original gerrymanderer was a Democrat in Massachusetts.


However, one thing that Democrats ignore is simple demographics. Look at Michigan. Democrats win the city of Detroit with 90+% of the vote...the same is true for other inner cities.

Republicans win their rural and small town districts with much smaller margins.

Any reasonable drawing of district lines will inherently favor Republicans and unreasonable drawing of district lines (having a district include inner city Detroit and a rural area far outside Detroit looking like a Salamander) will favor Democrats.
No need to introduce facts to a leftist.....they don't care!
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Old 10-18-2016, 05:54 PM
 
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The system is rigged.

We have it right from Obama, and he wouldn't lie.
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Old 10-18-2016, 06:46 PM
 
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The system is rigged.

We have it right from Obama, and he wouldn't lie.
And Hillary also says the system is rigged.
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Old 10-18-2016, 06:50 PM
 
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Trump

Do you agree with key liberals that the system gets rigged in favor of elites, banks, favored politicians, etc?
More spin, they are saying the system is rigged, such as the rich control everything,

They never said the election was rigged


That video is aimed at Trumps deplorable poorly educated masses.
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Old 10-18-2016, 06:54 PM
 
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I think the Republicans have the lock on rigging. When they saw voting blocks in districts beginning to change- "Hey.. We'll redraw the map!".

Any calls to have impartial panels do the redistricting met with stonewalling.. By mostly Republicans.

Yup- System is rigged all right. Will be until 2020, and then there might begin 'some' fair representation in areas.

But I doubt it.
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Old 10-18-2016, 06:56 PM
 
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No need to introduce facts to a leftist.....they don't care!
If you didn't read Carl Rove's interview with the WSJ- well then that's your ignorance, not mine. However ignorance seems to be exclusive of Trumps standard bearers.

(Soon to be pall bearers once his election hopes get laid to rest).

Oh and I'm a Buckley Conservative and certainly not aligned with the current crop of RWNJ's. Not sure why some people have an insistence on labels. But hey- if you're gonna label, at least do it right.
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