this is 'not a deplorable' for trump, right? (Republican, party)

[GearHeadDave]

Originally Posted by First24

Trump knows what buttons to push. Hate, blame and divisiveness are the rallying cries for the cult of Trump.

So sad. America needs an intervention.

Sad - but true. Trump's hard core supporters are nothing more or less than a hate-fueled mob. Remains to be seen where this will take us, but it is human nature in the end. Civilization and democratic idealism is a thin veneer covering our primitive nature, just look at some of the comments on this forum if you had any doubt. Just takes someone like Donald Trump willing to exploit those tendencies, it's an old story that has been repeated many times.

[phma]

Originally Posted by kat in aiken

And, they say all the trumpists are soooo peaceful and not at all interested in violence.

Trump supporter

No, you said that.
I haven't heard it from anyone else. Most people know there is good and bad on both sides.

[mightleavenyc]

Notice how this is just words while uour side is committing crimes like arson.

[don1945]

Right now, in Turkey, they are doing exactly what Trump and some of his supporters would love to do..........they are rounding up newspaper and media people and putting them in jail. Doing that eliminates the free press and kills any criticism of the government.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I REFUSE to let America become Turkey ! If the press was saying positive things about Trump, you all would be praising them to high Hell. Just because they see it differently than you do does not make them wrong, just different.

Anyone who does not see the parallels between Donald Trump and Hitler is being totally blind. He wants to control everything and shut down everything he disagrees with, or that disagrees with him.

These reasons are exactly why Trump will not get anywhere near the front door to the WH........enough of us are seeing this for what it is to shut him down.

[ELOrocks17]

Originally Posted by kat in aiken

OK... let me rephrase that... and the trumpists say that all the violence and threat of violence is from the clinton side.

I guess that guy's tee shirt advocating lynching journalists was a clinton plant? Yeah, right.

I dont know, lets ask the 2 scumbags from the Hillary campaign, you know the guys who payed mentally disordered libs $1500 to assault people at Trump rallies if "All the violence" is from the Clinton side

[don1945]

Do we want this to happen here, in America ?


Turkish police on Sunday arrested senior journalists, media executives and even the scriptwriter for a popular television series on charges of "forming, leading and being a member of an armed terrorist organization."
The more than two dozen arrests followed another series of police raids on December 17 of last year, in which prominent supporters of the government, including the sons of ministers and the head of a state-owned bank, were interrogated on charges of corruption.
In almost all cases, those year-old charges have been dropped.
The current crop of detentions are people associated with the influential Gulen religious movement and whose followers have an active network of schools and businesses. The government accuses the movement of infiltrating the police and judiciary.
Among those now detained are ***** Dumanli, editor-in-chief of Zaman, the country's widest circulating newspaper.
Police arriving at 7.30 a.m. were greeted by scores of protesters shouting "a free media cannot be silenced."
Journalists and Gulen supporters had mounted a vigil after tweets from "Fuatavni" -- a reliable but anonymous source -- had warned of the raid. Police retreated only to reappear in the afternoon when Dumanli gave himself up voluntarily.
Also in custody are Hidayet Karaca, the head of the Gulen-affiliated Samanyolu television, as well as the director, producers and writer of long-running political soap operas that cast aspersions on the government's attempt to broker a deal with Kurdish militants by depicting it as a conspiracy hatched in the corridors of Tehran.
For the past year, the government has been waging a campaign against the Islamic spiritual leader Fethullah Gulen, who lives in self-imposed exile in the Pocono Mountains of Pennsylvania. In the pro-government press, even the word Pennsylvania has become synonymous with a conspiracy to create what is called a "parallel" state by overthrowing the elected government of Recep Tayyip Erdogan, former Prime Minister and now President.
The Gulen-affiliated movement counters that these accusations are simply a smokescreen to cover up corruption in high places, including the president's own family. For the past 12 months, suspected Gulenists in the bureaucracy have been let go from key positions and laws enacted that will shut down a chain of university tutorial colleges affiliated to the movement.
"Whether driven by a desire to shift public attention from the anniversary of corruption probes, or by public criticisms of systematic nepotism and excesses of the presidential palace, these raids and arrests are politically motivated," the Alliance for Shared Values, an organization that represents U.S. groups affiliated with the Gulen movement, said in a statement. "Such actions taint Turkey's image around the world and raise the growing authoritarianism of the Erdogan regime to a new level."
Until recently, the Gulen movement had been among Erdogan's most enthusiastic supporters. The Zaman media group was a cheerleader of a series of trials that involved scores of military officers convicted of trying to stage a coup d'état. Journalists critical of the Gulenists' political ambitions also stood trial, including the freelance writer Ahmet Sik, who spent 2011-2012 in prison awaiting trial.
Sik has refused to have his revenge eaten cold. While the Gulen community may have "served fascism a few years ago, what happened to them is also fascism," he tweeted at the news of Sunday's raid.
Indeed many observers see the crackdown as a growing example of Erdogan's increasing authoritarian rule.
"These arrests appear to be government retribution against journalists reporting on corruption and criticizing the government. The crackdown on speech in Turkey must end, said Daniel Calingaert, executive vice president of Freedom House, the Washington-based democracy watchdog that this year downgraded the Turkish press from being "partly free" to "not free."
"The situation changes when people ... try to take control of the bureaucracy and thus declare war against the country's elected government," said Ahmet Davutoglu, Erdogan's successor as Prime Minister.
A statement by the U.S. State Department last week cautioned Turkey, a key NATO ally, not to violate its "own democratic foundations" while drawing attention to raids against media outlets "openly critical of the current Turkish government."

• Turkish police on Sunday arrested senior journalists, media executives and even the scriptwriter for a popular television series on charges of "forming, leading and being a member of an armed terrorist organization."
  The more than two dozen arrests followed another series of police raids on December 17 of last year, in which prominent supporters of the government, including the sons of ministers and the head of a state-owned bank, were interrogated on charges of corruption.
  In almost all cases, those year-old charges have been dropped.
  The current crop of detentions are people associated with the influential Gulen religious movement and whose followers have an active network of schools and businesses. The government accuses the movement of infiltrating the police and judiciary.
  Among those now detained are ***** Dumanli, editor-in-chief of Zaman, the country's widest circulating newspaper.
  Police arriving at 7.30 a.m. were greeted by scores of protesters shouting "a free media cannot be silenced."
  Journalists and Gulen supporters had mounted a vigil after tweets from "Fuatavni" -- a reliable but anonymous source -- had warned of the raid. Police retreated only to reappear in the afternoon when Dumanli gave himself up voluntarily.
  Also in custody are Hidayet Karaca, the head of the Gulen-affiliated Samanyolu television, as well as the director, producers and writer of long-running political soap operas that cast aspersions on the government's attempt to broker a deal with Kurdish militants by depicting it as a conspiracy hatched in the corridors of Tehran.
  For the past year, the government has been waging a campaign against the Islamic spiritual leader Fethullah Gulen, who lives in self-imposed exile in the Pocono Mountains of Pennsylvania. In the pro-government press, even the word Pennsylvania has become synonymous with a conspiracy to create what is called a "parallel" state by overthrowing the elected government of Recep Tayyip Erdogan, former Prime Minister and now President.
  The Gulen-affiliated movement counters that these accusations are simply a smokescreen to cover up corruption in high places, including the president's own family. For the past 12 months, suspected Gulenists in the bureaucracy have been let go from key positions and laws enacted that will shut down a chain of university tutorial colleges affiliated to the movement.
  "Whether driven by a desire to shift public attention from the anniversary of corruption probes, or by public criticisms of systematic nepotism and excesses of the presidential palace, these raids and arrests are politically motivated," the Alliance for Shared Values, an organization that represents U.S. groups affiliated with the Gulen movement, said in a statement. "Such actions taint Turkey's image around the world and raise the growing authoritarianism of the Erdogan regime to a new level."
  Until recently, the Gulen movement had been among Erdogan's most enthusiastic supporters. The Zaman media group was a cheerleader of a series of trials that involved scores of military officers convicted of trying to stage a coup d'état. Journalists critical of the Gulenists' political ambitions also stood trial, including the freelance writer Ahmet Sik, who spent 2011-2012 in prison awaiting trial.
  Sik has refused to have his revenge eaten cold. While the Gulen community may have "served fascism a few years ago, what happened to them is also fascism," he tweeted at the news of Sunday's raid.
  Indeed many observers see the crackdown as a growing example of Erdogan's increasing authoritarian rule.
  "These arrests appear to be government retribution against journalists reporting on corruption and criticizing the government. The crackdown on speech in Turkey must end, said Daniel Calingaert, executive vice president of Freedom House, the Washington-based democracy watchdog that this year downgraded the Turkish press from being "partly free" to "not free."
  "The situation changes when people ... try to take control of the bureaucracy and thus declare war against the country's elected government," said Ahmet Davutoglu, Erdogan's successor as Prime Minister.
  A statement by the U.S. State Department last week cautioned Turkey, a key NATO ally, not to violate its "own democratic foundations" while drawing attention to raids against media outlets "openly critical of the current Turkish government."

[LifeIsGood01]

Originally Posted by kat in aiken

And, they say all the trumpists are soooo peaceful and not at all interested in violence.

Trump supporter

Republicans have always been the lynching party.

[texan2yankee]

Originally Posted by LifeIsGood01

Republicans have always been the lynching party.

You are ignorant of American History.

[kat in aiken]

Originally Posted by AnywhereElse

Making a comparison to put things in prospective: ‘Clinton death list’: 33 spine-tingling cases The Dems have been VERY weak in comparing and contrasting the candidates which is how a competition works. Hillary's supporters spent their time being critical of Trump to deflect from the horror that Hillary is. People without shame, who could help them.

If half the negative stuff they say about Trump was true, which it isn't, he is still the better choice for POTUS. He has stepped up after thinking about this for years. It is not a bucket list wish or to be a "first" something or another. Trump is doing his patriotic duty by stepping up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM&t=31s

And, yet... clinton has never been indicted, much less convicted of murdering anyone. No weakness or deflection needed. Such a shame that nobody can pin stuff that they didn't do on them, eh?

If half the negative stuff they say about trump weren't actually recorded here and there... like, at his rallies, in interviews, in court records, even on the bus, then it might not be true. but, oh bummer, it has been recorded for posterity and shows significant evidence of having happened. So, yeah, running for prez is an item on trump's bucket list, and trump has never, ever shown a single sign of being even the least bit patriotic.

[kat in aiken]

Originally Posted by phma

No, you said that.
I haven't heard it from anyone else. Most people know there is good and bad on both sides.

What!?!? Nobody from the other side is allowed to use "they say"? How incredibly intolerant and hypocritical of the trumpists.

I do notice that you picked that post rather than the other post where I rephrased it. Guess that is because you agree that 'they (trumpists) say' those things, eh?

"Originally Posted by kat in aiken
OK... let me rephrase that... and the trumpists say that all the violence and threat of violence is from the clinton side. "