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Old 11-08-2016, 05:11 AM
 
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Will we give away the future of America to refugees and illegals and more money in the pocket of Washington and taken more from the middle class.

Will we allow babies in the 8th month to be aborted as mom's can decide and future dad's have no saying about it!

Vote wise as it is the future that will be decided today.
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Old 11-08-2016, 05:26 AM
 
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the choice is clear, don't make women go back to back alley abortions. No more wire hangers, ever. Women have a right to choose.

There are 400 million guns in this country, it would be easier to deport 11 million illegals than to confiscate guns.
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Old 11-08-2016, 05:28 AM
 
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Will we give away the future of America to refugees and illegals and more money in the pocket of Washington and taken more from the middle class.

Will we allow babies in the 8th month to be aborted as mom's can decide and future dad's have no saying about it!

Vote wise as it is the future that will be decided today.
You are dreaming, We have had a conservative Republican supreme court for a long time and Rowe Vs Wade has never been overturned.
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Old 11-08-2016, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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The thought of Hillary being elected makes me ill. She is such a

Also, on abortion, it stops a beating heart. With modern birth control, abortion should not be necessary, especially pulling a baby from the womb into the birth canal and stabbing it to death. My parents managed to limit their family to 2 children in the 1950 & 1960s using what now is primitive birth control methods available at reasonable prices at most retailers. They did not, of course, sleep around having drunk and drugged sex. The life of a baby should never be considered an inconvenience as many families are waiting to welcome a baby through adoption, even minority children and children with disabilities. Medicaid appears to cover sterilization for those that just can't get it! No excuse to end an innocent life.

I think any Supreme Court will not overturn SSM. I just don't see that happening as there is no victim like there is in abortion. I believe that religion and government should be separate thus my concern that sharia law has been allowed to move forward in some cities and that we continue to bring more refugees into the country that are demanding sharia law and seeing it as above our Constitution.
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Old 11-08-2016, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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SUPREME COURT and the next generations future will be decided today!

Overly dramatic, imo. If anything, Clinton will moderate what Obama has done. She'll give a steady hand to the country. You'll even see our markets behave accordingly in the next several days. She will not disrupt what we have going, imo. It'll be predictable no matter what the chicken-littles say about the sky falling.
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Old 11-08-2016, 05:40 AM
 
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I can't recall an election in which one of the two parties failed to moan about how the election has immense ratifications concerning the Supreme Court.


It was an issue during the Nixon re-election of 1972, and continues to this day. It is a fact of life that those appointed to the court tend to be older, and so every four years you have at least one, usually two, Justices that people predict will retire or die during the upcoming administration, and how important it was to vote Republican/Democratic, depending on circumstances.


The only difference in this election is the Republican Senate refusing to perform their Constitutional duty to at least 'advise and consent' to President Obama's nominee. I am not saying that the Senate must affirm the nominee, but to not even hold the hearing is irresponsible.


As to the hyperbole about women waiting until the eighth or ninth month to suddenly 'change their minds', I would direct you to Roe v. Wade. Actually read the decision. Think of what it says. Mull over how the Court differentiate between the first trimester, the second trimester and the third trimester, and how the Government interest in protecting the unborn is at its greatest during the third trimester. I am not aware of anyone claiming that a woman has an absolute right, or should have the right, in the third trimester, to abort a child, save for a very narrow set of circumstances (medical), which very rarely happens. Mr. Trump's claim that women are changing their mind and 'ripping the baby' out the day before normal delivery is expected, is silly, and was calculated to only appeal to his low-educated audience.
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Old 11-08-2016, 05:52 AM
 
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We do indeed get to decide the future of our nation today. Here's what we get when we vote in Republicans:

Trickle-down economic policies that enrich those at the top and stick it to the middle-class.

Plans to privatize Social Security, turn Medicare into a voucher system, and do away with ACA. Good news for Wall Street. Bad news for the rest of us.

Attempts to impose RW religion believes from abortion and birth control to civil rights for LGBT citizens on all of us, a violation of our Constitution's Bill of Rights which states clearly that the government is not to get involved in establishing religion.

War mongering. The last Republican President pushed us into two wars based on lies. Their candidate this time around muses aloud about using nuclear weapons and promises to "bomb them all."

A history of poor fiscal management. The last Republican President to leave U.S. in better economic shape than he found it was Eisenhower. Reagan tripled the national debt. Bush left the nation's economy in a shambles.

Obstructionism. Instead of working with those elected by Americans to govern our nation, they work to undermine them and vow to continue doing so. They waste time and taxes holding partisan political hearings and investigations and it looks like they've drawn the FBI into their political schemes.

They grandstand about the evils of illegal immigration but for years now have had the power to do something about it and yet didn't.

There is nothing about the Republican party that is good news for middle class Americans. Rich people, yes. But not working people.
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Old 11-08-2016, 06:04 AM
 
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This is ridiculous . . . . Haven't you heard, GOP and Cruz won't confirm Hillary's appointees? And if they have any spine, the Democrats should do the same if Trump wins, as stupid as that might be. So it will be 4-4 until the Judgment Day.

Mick
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Old 11-08-2016, 06:06 AM
 
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Yes, making for-profit prisons illegal, repealing Citizens United (legalized political bribery) and making the current system of gerrymandering unconstitutional will never happen under a GOP supreme court. On the contrary, GOP justices have pushed hard to ensure that the power of the state is serving the big money donors, which means local governments relying on traffic fines, court fines and court fees to fund public services, targeting the 99% and the bottom 50% in particular for revenue and ensuring a steady stream of people going to jail for traffic fines to become cheap labor for the for-profit prison system.

Its so appalling I fail to understand how people can support justices that support this system.

Why are people so obsessed about guns and abortion, so much that they are willing to flush democracy down the toilet and support plutocracy instead?
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Old 11-08-2016, 06:17 AM
 
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Yes, making for-profit prisons illegal, repealing Citizens United (legalized political bribery) and making the current system of gerrymandering unconstitutional will never happen under a GOP supreme court. On the contrary, GOP justices have pushed hard to ensure that the power of the state is serving the big money donors, which means local governments relying on traffic fines, court fines and court fees to fund public services, targeting the 99% and the bottom 50% in particular for revenue and ensuring a steady stream of people going to jail for traffic fines to become cheap labor for the for-profit prison system.

Its so appalling I fail to understand how people can support justices that support this system.

Why are people so obsessed about guns and abortion, so much that they are willing to flush democracy down the toilet and support plutocracy instead?
That is the mystery.
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