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Old 11-10-2016, 07:02 AM
 
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Originally Posted by crusinsusan View Post
More voters chose Clinton. The Electoral College does it again, for the 5th time in history.

"There are still more votes to be counted, but it looks almost certain that despite losing the presidency, Hillary Clinton will win the popular vote.

And likely by a million or more votes — a much larger margin than Al Gore enjoyed in 2000, when he too was denied by the Electoral College even though he nominally had more votes.
Put more starkly: It appears Americans chose Clinton, but got Trump."


Electoral College Lesson: More Voters Chose Clinton, but Trump Will Be President - NBC News

Why Electoral College wins are bigger than popular vote ones | Pew Research Center

Electoral College About To Screw Democrats For Second Time In 20 Years | Huffington Post
The massive population centers of California and New York chose Clinton, the rest of the country did not. Neither candidate got the popular majority of the vote. Trump won the election based on the electoral college votes representing, not the people of California and New York, but the United States.
This has been the 4th or 5th topic on this subject and it gets tired giving the same civics 101 lesson. Deal with it.

 
Old 11-10-2016, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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And no one would be saying anything if Trump won the popular vote and Clinton the electoral college ...



I'm sure Trump supporters would be saying something.
 
Old 11-10-2016, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The massive population centers of California and New York chose Clinton, the rest of the country did not. Neither candidate got the popular majority of the vote. Trump won the election based on the electoral college votes representing, not the people of California and New York, but the United States. Deal with it.
Oh for heaven's sake! A citizen is a citizen, a voice a voice. You should not count more or less depending on what state you live in.
 
Old 11-10-2016, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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and I would bet anyone $100.00 those 200k votes are suspect.



many of those are military mails ins
 
Old 11-10-2016, 07:08 AM
 
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Even if it turns out to be true, it is absolutely irrelevant and meaningless.

We don't decide elections by popular vote. If we did, we don't know what would have happened. I suspect Trump would have won that, too, by going to places like the South, the Mountain West, and the plains states to drive up his numbers there.
 
Old 11-10-2016, 07:08 AM
 
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Oh for heaven's sake! A citizen is a citizen, a voice a voice. You should not count more or less depending on what state you live in.
The people of California already do count much more because you are more populated state. California gets 57 electoral votes, that's 21% of the total needed to win the election. They get more than there fair share of the voice already.
However, the electoral college exists to give the less populated states a voice as well. why would it make sense that that New York and California elect the president every 4 years? If we did that guess what, a president focus all his presidential actions to benefit only those two states and ignore the rest.
Hey We are the United STATES of America. Focus on that word - STATES. 50 of them with someone independent and decentralized policies. Every state should have a voice. The same concept is why every state has 2 senators regardless of population. We aren't "United States of California with 49 Lesser Provinces."

Did you fall asleep in civics class when they were covering this topic?

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Old 11-10-2016, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Well we didn't elect Obama in 2012 either. I didn't hear the left crying about that.
???? Obama won both the popular vote and the EC. Under any scenario, that means "we" did indeed elect him.
 
Old 11-10-2016, 07:10 AM
 
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I am not having it both ways. The FBI should have done their job without running to the media first. Had they done that, they would have reached the same conclusion, without interfering with the elections. That is how it has always worked.

Their announcement 11 days before the elections is far from irrelevant.
The FBI did not run to the media.

On the other hand it's the media's job to find these things out and report on it.



Remember, if Clinton had done no wrong, then the media reporting on it should have been welcomed. Get back to me when you have that sorted out.
 
Old 11-10-2016, 07:12 AM
 
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The Electoral College did again, as the founders intended. This is one of many reasons the founders established a Constitutional Republic.
 
Old 11-10-2016, 07:13 AM
 
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Time to invest in Kleenex stock. The crying and babbling will be endless for the next 6 months or so. WAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.


My simple solution is to put all forum liberals on ignore. Problem Solved!
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