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I think this says it all so well. A great read from beginning to end. A few "highlights":
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"That’s the fantasy, the idea that if we mock them enough, call them racist enough, they’ll eventually shut up and get in line. It’s similar to how media Twitter works, a system where people who dissent from the proper framing of a story are attacked by mobs of smugly incredulous pundits. Journalists exist primarily in a world where people can get shouted down and disappear, which informs our attitudes toward all disagreement."
"That the explainers and data journalists so frequently get things hilariously wrong never invites the soul-searching you’d think it would. Instead, it all just somehow leads us to more smugness, more meanness, more certainty from the reporters and pundits. Faced with defeat, we retreat further into our bubble, assumptions left unchecked. No, it’s the voters who are wrong."
"Our theme now should be humility. We must become more impartial, not less so. We have to abandon our easy culture of tantrums and recrimination. We have to stop writing these know-it-all, 140-character sermons on social media and admit that, as a class, journalists have a shamefully limited understanding of the country we cover.
On the same topic, I was stunned to see this from the New York Times:
Regardless, I've seen many in the press still carrying on in a the smug like/doubling down on insulting the voters. The irony is this I think the press and how they are carrying on, information revealed in WikiL on some of them and their actions, etc. helped get trump elected. And more than a few of the media still haven't learned. I call it doubling down on stupidity.
They can write and explain away what went wrong all they want , it is useless now. Voters will not forget how the MSM behaved during this election. They knew the public was aware of their unashamed bias to ward Hillary. Yet they persisted , lulled into a false sense of confidence they were backing the winner.
Now, the walk back begins. The NYT, who stood shouting above the rest , is vowing to rededicate the paper. Is he being serious ?. Does the whole MSM not realize the damage is done . The NYT is going to suffer under Trump and rightly so. They will be pushed to the fringes and left there from now on.
Add in CNN, CBS, ABC, HuffPo, MSNBC , we wish you all farewell.
All they had to do was take the comments sections on their articles seriously and they would have realized this a year ago. They don't want to change and won't.
All they had to do was take the comments sections on their articles seriously and they would have realized this a year ago. They don't want to change and won't.
Many online "journalists" removed the comments sections because of this. I stopped reading anything posted anywhere that didn't allow comments because it was just too frustrating to see ideas go unchallenged, but that's the only way they could keep doing what they do.
I read of the links within the links and it all provided s sobering picture of what's going wrong with journalism. Journalists are typically based out of LA or New York, surrounded by liberals in urban areas and posses skills that have been rewarded by the global economy (no outsourcing the news). Given that journalism is incredibly subjective to confirmation bias, it's nearly an impossible to tap into the feeling of the entire center of the country.
They can write and explain away what went wrong all they want , it is useless now. Voters will not forget how the MSM behaved during this election. ll.
THIS election?
I've said for 8 years that the PRESS elected Obama.
I gotta wonder. I get that the press is out of tune with middle America. Then how is Trump, who's been wealthy his entire life and always lived in New York, the guy that ends up being the only one that could successfully tap into middle America's issues?
It's not like he came from a coal mining town or anything.
I gotta wonder. I get that the press is out of tune with middle America. Then how is Trump, who's been wealthy his entire life and always lived in New York, the guy that ends up being the only one that could successfully tap into middle America's issues?
It's not like he came from a coal mining town or anything.
So you didn't take him serious either.
Overlooked how he became successful by listening and talking with the blue collar workers on his job sites. Listened to the ones that actually do the work and valued their opinion and ideas that were ignored by those in the office and management. He learned the language and how to communicate with them. Something those in media can't do. That's why they take everything he says literal but not serious. His supporters take what he says seriously but not literal. The left likes to claim their superiority by being educated but couldn't learn the language necessary to success. The ivory tower meets the Trump Tower and gets trumped.
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