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View Poll Results: Does Clinton's Popular Vote Victory Reduce Trump's Mandate?
YES. Trump's vote count is too low to be a mandate for sweeping change. 70 27.89%
NO. Trump won, and that's reason enough for a mandate for sweeping change. 125 49.80%
DOESN'T MATTER. The mandate concept is too vague to mean anything. 56 22.31%
Voters: 251. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-16-2016, 10:29 AM
 
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Looking at the states with ballots left to count, there's zero chance Trump can close the gap. The only question remaining is how large will Clinton's popular vote margin be.
Take out the illegal votes, there are by some estimates 2m-3m , Trump has the popular and electoral college vote all sewn up.

Hillary is approx. 1.5m ahead , including the illegal votes cast for Hillary.

Trump will exceed her results by about .25m to .5m when all results are in and adjusted for illegal votes.

This man Trump has one helluva mandate.
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:30 AM
 
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Based on the number of people who didn't vote who might show up for midterm elections, Republicans should just stay drunk for a while longer, the next four years could be a disaster for the GOP. Trump Was was elected by the smallest numbers of everything, bigly small 26%
It was bigly huge.

Trump flipped 7 states from Blue to Red. It won him the Presidency just like we all said he would.
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:37 AM
 
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Take out the illegal votes, there are by some estimates 2m-3m , Trump has the popular and electoral college vote all sewn up.

Hillary is approx. 1.5m ahead , including the illegal votes cast for Hillary.

Trump will exceed her results by about .25m to .5m when all results are in and adjusted for illegal votes.

This man Trump has one helluva mandate.
Where are you getting your data to support a claim of 3 million illegal votes? And how would one know that any given voter is an illegal or who that voter voted for.?
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:41 AM
 
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Take out the illegal votes, there are by some estimates 2m-3m , Trump has the popular and electoral college vote all sewn up.
That's just propaganda and tin-foil hat nonsense being pushed by rightwing zealots.
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:45 AM
 
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Take out the illegal votes, there are by some estimates 2m-3m
Let me know when you can back up this unsubstantiated claim, will you?

That said, Trump won, winner take all. He has a compliant Congress that will be easy to work with, so he may get a lot of his agenda (whatever it is) enacted.
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:49 AM
 
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That's just propaganda and tin-foil hat nonsense being pushed by rightwing zealots.
It's called People Power. Not donor power

Sour grapes already your poll is going to turn overwhelmingly in favor of Trump.

Get used to it. Or, do liberals have a masochistic tendency to inflict further pain on themselves.

Why do you enjoy adding insult onto the injury of defeat?.
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:58 AM
 
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Usually in elections it is said the a landslide victory is needed to serve as a mandate for huge, sweeping changes in laws and programs. Trump won in the Electoral College with a good margin but most would not call it a landslide. Hillary Clinton is winning the national popular vote by the largest margin in U.S. history:

Popular vote count Nov. 16 0800 PST

Clinton.... 62,414,099... 47.8%
Trump...... 61,255,290... 46.9%


Clinton lead = 1,158,809 (source: Cook Political Report)
No, it doesn't reduce Trump's mandate.

Plus, fraudulent voting would more than make up for Clinton's popular vote lead, which is why her campaign did not request any recounts. Her margin of defeat in the swing states would increase if there were a recount leading to elimination of fraudulent ballots.
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Old 11-16-2016, 11:02 AM
 
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Trump 306 electoral votes
Hillary 232 electoral votes


Trump won in a landslide.
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Old 11-16-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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He also flipped 7 states that went for Obama in '08 from Blue to Red.
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Old 11-16-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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Why is it that the only places promoting that nonsense are RWNJ websites?
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