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View Poll Results: Does Clinton's Popular Vote Victory Reduce Trump's Mandate?
YES. Trump's vote count is too low to be a mandate for sweeping change. 70 27.89%
NO. Trump won, and that's reason enough for a mandate for sweeping change. 125 49.80%
DOESN'T MATTER. The mandate concept is too vague to mean anything. 56 22.31%
Voters: 251. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-02-2016, 02:19 PM
 
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Eh, I disagree with that assessment. Clinton lost because she ignored the fundamentals. If she had spent less time playing for a landslide and more playing for a win she would have won. Saying it was due to Comey basically says that Trump had nothing to do with it.
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Old 12-02-2016, 02:22 PM
 
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Do you have any idea how many counties throughout the country he carried ?
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Old 12-02-2016, 02:24 PM
 
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Do you have any idea how many counties throughout the country he carried ?
Is this a rhetorical question or are you going to tell us?
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Old 12-02-2016, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Richmond,VA
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Is this a rhetorical question or are you going to tell us?

3084 out of 3151
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Old 12-02-2016, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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It was a very close election indeed.

Polls on election night had Hillary winning by 3-4 points on average, which was within the margin of error. Prior to the Comey announcement she was leading by 6-7 points on average.

So it's not unreasonable to believe that if not for Comey she could've been the President-elect by a narrow margin.
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Old 12-02-2016, 02:33 PM
 
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3084 out of 3151
Yeah, not likely.
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Old 12-02-2016, 02:40 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Liberals still grasping for the fantasy that they has a chance of winning. Sad.
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Old 12-02-2016, 02:42 PM
 
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Trump's own polling guru, "veteran Tony Fabrizio, said just five counties made the difference: four in Florida and one in Michigan." Fabrizio said Trump's victory was not a landslide and if Clinton had won in those five counties, she would be President-Elect today.

“When you really drill down on this election, if you change the vote in five counties, four in Florida, one in Michigan, we’d be having a totally opposite conversation right now,” Fabrizio said of the race. “For all the money that was spent, for the all the effort that was made, literally four counties in Florida, one county in Michigan puts us at 261 [electoral] votes and makes Hillary Clinton the president."

In the article it says that Fabrizio agreed with Clinton's pollster that both their numbers showed that FBI Director Comey's letter caused a defection of Clinton voters that probably played in a key role in Trump's very narrow victory.

Donald Trump
This has been clear for a couple of weeks. Trump won by an extremely narrow margin and lost the popular vote by what looks to be almost 3 million votes. That he's doing his "in your face" gloating tour after this will only increase the outrage over whatever presidential disasters (which are inevitable) that come. It's quite amazing that he asking for unity at the same time he's gloating.
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Old 12-02-2016, 02:43 PM
 
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Pop goes the Trump bubble from someone on his own side who is making the case that is patently obvious to everyone but him and his minions.

Namely, that his election was not a landslide as he claimed last night in his little victory tour, and that he has Jim Comey to thank for being an accidental President.

He needs to stop patting himself on the back, get off of twitter, read some intelligence briefings, do some homework, and really get ready for the most difficult job on earth. Tick Tick Tick Donny.

Just sayin!
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Old 12-02-2016, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Paradise
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No, I don't believe Trump won in a landslide and it WAS a very close election.


However, I have no doubt that had Clinton won, she would have indeed claimed a landslide/mandate win. And the folks here who appear to be so disenfranchised would have agreed with her.
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