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View Poll Results: Which Democrat Would have Best Chance at Beating Trump in 2020 for President?
Elizabeth Warren 19 17.12%
Jason Kander 6 5.41%
Tim Kaine 5 4.50%
Tim Ryan 5 4.50%
Keith Ellison 6 5.41%
other (explain) 70 63.06%
Voters: 111. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-19-2017, 04:51 PM
 
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Not to me it isn't, I refuse to call him president, or by his real name. That is my form of peaceful protest.
I remember when Obama was president, many Republicans called him names and said that he wasn't their president. Now they're whining that we're doing the same with Trump.
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Old 02-19-2017, 04:51 PM
 
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The Dem's need someone a little more in the center, they are going too far left and I think if they can find someone more even keeled than say Elizabeth Warren, they might stand a shot. If Trump doesn't step on his pecker and bring the economy around I don't see him losing in 2020, but who knows, this last election cycle was a complete game changer, EVERY pundit got it wrong. The middle of the country came out in droves against Hillary, granted she won the popular vote, but got a serious beat down in the electoral vote.

Hilary in her arrogance did nothing for middle America and I think that's part of why she lost.

The Dems need to do an open and honest post mortem to see what they missed. I'm afraid that they are just going to double down and keep going in the same direction.
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Old 02-19-2017, 04:52 PM
 
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It's an interesting question. Right now I don't think the Dems have someone who can win over both parties. I like Elizabeth Warren, however I highly doubt the republicans would vote for her.
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Old 02-19-2017, 04:53 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Red face ... his names are legion!

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His name is Donald J. Trump .
More commonly referred to as:

The Orange Clown
Agent Orange
Cheeto
Trumplethinskin
Trumpty Dumpty
Despicable Donnie
Founder, Trump University
P*ssy Grabber
Putin's B*tch
Princess Tiny Meat

etc., etc. ad infinitum ...


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Old 02-19-2017, 04:53 PM
 
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I've said that the problem with Elizabeth Warren is that her expertise is very limited. But she could use those years to broaden her involvement.

What happened to Russ Feingold?
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Old 02-19-2017, 05:03 PM
 
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The Dem's need someone a little more in the center, they are going too far left and I think if they can find someone more even keeled than say Elizabeth Warren, they might stand a shot. If Trump doesn't step on his pecker and bring the economy around I don't see him losing in 2020, but who knows, this last election cycle was a complete game changer, EVERY pundit got it wrong. The middle of the country came out in droves against Hillary, granted she won the popular vote, but got a serious beat down in the electoral vote.

Hilary in her arrogance did nothing for middle America and I think that's part of why she lost.

The Dems need to do an open and honest post mortem to see what they missed. I'm afraid that they are just going to double down and keep going in the same direction.
Hillary isn't that far to the left, some actually criticize her for not being far to the left enough.

I don't think the Dems should go too far to the left though, I think center-left is good.
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Old 02-19-2017, 05:07 PM
 
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Tulsi Gabbard

Ron Wyden

Tammi Duckworth

Jim Webb

Jason Kander

Patricia Horoho

If none of these names on the POTUS or VP for the Democrat ticket for 2020 I'll vote Third Party again.

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Old 02-19-2017, 05:08 PM
 
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Hillary isn't that far to the left, some actually criticize her for not being far to the left enough.

I don't think the Dems should go too far to the left though, I think center-left is good.

I just don't think they should try to run Warren, she's not going to pull the center vote in my opinion.
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Old 02-19-2017, 05:18 PM
 
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I just don't think they should try to run Warren, she's not going to pull the center vote in my opinion.
I think she'll remind people too much of Hillary Clinton, plus the whole "Pocahontas" thing is baggage.
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Old 02-19-2017, 05:22 PM
 
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Kucinich?

Sweden gave the Nobel Peace prize to Obama.

They got some insane white guilt.
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