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View Poll Results: Which Democrat Would have Best Chance at Beating Trump in 2020 for President?
Elizabeth Warren 19 17.12%
Jason Kander 6 5.41%
Tim Kaine 5 4.50%
Tim Ryan 5 4.50%
Keith Ellison 6 5.41%
other (explain) 70 63.06%
Voters: 111. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-19-2017, 07:24 PM
 
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We apparently have differing ideas of what is far left and or progressive.
Yes, most people here think of immigration and social issues when they see democrats as "far left extremists". They dont think an economic policy closely tied to Wall Street and the big money donors which both parties are beholden to as "far left extremism". Running a candidate that is pro-worker like New Deal Democrats used to be is not "far left extremism". Its just the democratic party going back to its roots. The GOP will then have to double down on god, guns, abortions etc in order to distract people from its policies benefiting the 0.1%.
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Old 02-19-2017, 07:27 PM
 
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Warren has a snowballs chance in hell of winning the general election. I'm sure the repugs would love it if she ran.

Her Pocahontas deal is already haunting her.
"pocahontas" is a non-issue for sane people. She believed her own family stories growing up in Oklahoma that she was of part native American heritage, and it might or might not be the case. The people who get riled up about something so trivial are not the people who would vote for a democrat in the first place. These are die-hard partisans who would vote for the GOP candidate if the GOP candidate was a frog.

Regarding who the Democrats should run, I think Sherrod Brown, Tulsi Gabbard and Nina Turner (although she needs to be either Cleveland mayor or governor of Ohio I think before running for president) would be the three best choices.
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Old 02-19-2017, 07:33 PM
 
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"pocahontas" is a non-issue for sane people. She believed her own family stories growing up in Oklahoma that she was of part native American heritage, and it might or might not be the case. The people who get riled up about something so trivial are not the people who would vote for a democrat in the first place. These are die-hard partisans who would vote for the GOP candidate if the GOP candidate was a frog.

Regarding who the Democrats should run, I think Sherrod Brown, Tulsi Gabbard and Nina Turner (although she needs to be either Cleveland mayor or governor of Ohio I think before running for president) would be the three best choices.
I'm not personally riled by her native American heritage BS, but a lot will be, but whatever. There are die hard types on both sides of the aisle that have blind allegiance to a party, not just the GOP. I vote issues, I couldn't care less about party lines.
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Old 02-19-2017, 07:40 PM
 
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Right now the Democrats are made up of far left loony tunes or obvious corporatists. They're are not many modserates that can strike a balancing act
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Old 02-19-2017, 07:46 PM
 
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"pocahontas" is a non-issue for sane people. She believed her own family stories growing up in Oklahoma that she was of part native American heritage, and it might or might not be the case. The people who get riled up about something so trivial are not the people who would vote for a democrat in the first place. These are die-hard partisans who would vote for the GOP candidate if the GOP candidate was a frog.

Regarding who the Democrats should run, I think Sherrod Brown, Tulsi Gabbard and Nina Turner (although she needs to be either Cleveland mayor or governor of Ohio I think before running for president) would be the three best choices.
You are missing the entire issue.... she applied and got a job at Harvard because she listed herself as a Native American minority.

Imagine if all white people who had a DNA test with > 0.5% African American heritage listed themselves as black for scholarships and job applications.
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Old 02-19-2017, 08:01 PM
 
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You are missing the entire issue.... she applied and got a job at Harvard because she listed herself as a Native American minority.
No she didnt. Thats fake news. Harvard has denied it.

Again, people who get riled up about this nonsense will never vote for democrats anyway. They are die hard partisans. Democrats dont need to pander to these people.
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Old 02-19-2017, 08:04 PM
 
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Elizabeth Warren is a crazy person with a voice sounding like nails on a chalkboard. Go ahead and run her Dems
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Old 02-19-2017, 08:10 PM
 
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Tulsi Gabbard would be a good pick.

She is honest. She called out Obama for his foolish policy of dumping free tax-payer-funded weapons all over the Middle East that was suppose to arm impossible to find "moderate rebels," but have instead armed ISIS and created power vacuums.

Tulsi Gabbard Says U.S. Is Funding And Arming ISIS | The Daily Caller
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Old 02-19-2017, 08:11 PM
 
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Democrats need to get Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania back before they start going after the traditionally Republican Sunbelt states. Clinton was a weak candidate and yet she lost each of those three northern states by less than 1%. Many voters in those states want a focus on the basics - the economy, national security, entitlements (Social Security & Medicare) - and not peripheral fringe issues.

Counting on the Sunbelt states to flip due to their demographics is very questionable, and an identity politics focus encourages those who feel left out by societal and economic changes to listen to voices like Trump's. Clinton's strategy of taking the Rustbelt for granted and going after voters in states she didn't need to win backfired badly, and the next Democratic nominee would be well served not to repeat her mistakes.
Well, they should try to win as many states as possible.

I'm not saying the next candidate should count on the sunbelt's demographics to win, but I think with a strong platform they should be able to win the rust belt back and possibly some sunbelt states that are in their reach.
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Old 02-19-2017, 08:13 PM
 
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No she didnt. Thats fake news. Harvard has denied it.

Again, people who get riled up about this nonsense will never vote for democrats anyway. They are die hard partisans. Democrats dont need to pander to these people.
Does Harvard really have any other choice than to deny it - true or not?

The only thing we can know for sure is she listed herself as Native American and she has little to none Native American blood and should have selected Caucasian but didn't.
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