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I remember in 1970 when Ted Kennedy, even with Chappaquidick the year before, was going to beat Nixon in 1972. Then McGovern was going to mop the floor with Nixon.
Mondale was going to destroy Reagan in 1984.
Gary Hart was going to beat GHW Bush in 1988.
Donald Trump is not Richard Nixon, George H.W. Bush or Ronald Reagan
How many would have picked Clinton to win in 1992 after his 1988 bomb of a convention speech?
How many would have picked Obama to win in 2008 at this point in 2005?
How many would have picked Trump at this point in 2013?
Not many
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I wonder why Jay Nixon is never discussed in national politics. It seems like he did a great job as governor of Missouri. He might be too moderate. He cut spending and fixed their budget. He froze state tuition rates for 4 years. He handled Ferguson fairly well. He handled the tornado crisis in Joplin very well. Missouri's economy has done great relative to all its neighbors. Missouri has had great job growth as well.
How many would have picked Clinton to win in 1992 after his 1988 bomb of a convention speech?
How many would have picked Obama to win in 2008 at this point in 2005?
How many would have picked Trump at this point in 2013?
Not many
This X 1000!
One of thee best political conversations I've seen in the last 20 years was on a C-spaan foum 10 or 12 years ago. One of the commentators pointed out no one had won the Presidency with more than 8 years of national political prominence since Nixon. They might have been governor or a position but they had not been a big party name. And even then Nixon was the exception that proved the rule. The last 3 presidents have held office for 6, 4, and 0 years before making it to the White House.
I would strongly discourage Dems from picking their pony just yet. Both political parties are in the throes of serious schism. The Dems need to sort out what to do with SJW Hitler Youth Regressive Death Cult, because it's driving the sane Democrats away. It's also creating a massive online backlash against their totalitarian beliefs. Donald Trump's big fat mouth and the fact that he's most certainly not a traditional Republican is presently sending shockwaves through the party. It's hard to say whether doing more help than harm. Some are running away from the GOP. Some who never liked the GOP before now are flocking in. It remains to be seen whether Trump or the opposition mainstream media will win out in their current feud. It remains to be seen how everything will shake out for all of Trump's policies and plans across the board. The Democratic Party might have to completely reinvent itself for the midterm elections. Who is the up and coming young charismatic leadership? Will they take the reigns like we saw Paul Ryan taking over leadership of the GOP, or will the old guard leadership remain?
In short, too much is in flux. Picking your candidate now is premature and makes no sense.
Donald Trump is probably the most hated President in over a century. This is the Democrats' time to start regrouping to take back Congress in 2018 and make Trump a one-term President in 2020. Democrats need to get over the 2016 election, get over Hillary Clinton, and start looking ahead. Democrats also know what works and what doesn't work. Obama and Sanders excited their base. Hillary Clinton was a big yawn and didn't have a lot of enthusiastic support. Democrats need to groom somebody of the Obama mold, who can unite the center and the left and get the vote out, to kick Donald Trump out in 2020. Barring some sort of miraculous and unlikely turnaround for Trump's Presidency, the 2020 election will b the Democrats' election to lose.
Democrats also have the opportunity here to nominate somebody who can win over some Republican voters who might be open to voting Democrats "just one time" to get rid of Trump. This largely depends on if Trump has serious primary competition in 2020 which is very possible. However, it's for this reason the Democrats shouldn't nominate somebody too far left. They need to nominate somebody center-left who can possibly also appeal to the center right, and do it in a charismatic energizing way.
Nominating Hillary again or somebody like her is a sure way to an 8-year Trump presidency.
How many would have picked Clinton to win in 1992 after his 1988 bomb of a convention speech?
How many would have picked Obama to win in 2008 at this point in 2005?
How many would have picked Trump at this point in 2013?
Not many
I agree. At this point in 2005 it looked like Hillary Clinton was a sure bet for 2008. In 2013 that also looked like the most likely possibility since Democrats had long decided it was "her turn" after Obama. However, in a normal cycle you have to wait until at least the midterms before things start to move into focus.
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The type of candidate the Dems need for 2020
