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Has Bernie expressed opinions about the third party candidates this year? He was and still identifies him as an independent, with the exception of the campaign period. Instead of attaching himself to the Democrats, why isn't he interested in helping supporting independents, third parties to increase their influences? It seems he could be the most effective to do so.
independent is not a ideology, it is a classification. It simply means you do not belong to any political party.
To further answer your question. Sanders agrees more with the Democratic Party than he does with say the Green party.
Do you know what the first major bill the Democrats pushed for? It was the energy bill that was six gazillion pages long 300 of which were added 3AM the day it was being voted on. That bill would of drove energy rates, home costs and a plethora of other things up substantially. This was 2009.... What were they thinking? Even in good economic times that would of been bitter pill to swallow.
The Republicans are very conscious of what happened to Democrats in 2010 because they were driving an over the top liberal agenda. I don't think they will make that same mistake. The two things they will concentrate on is the economy and fixing Obamacare. They only need to be moderately successful....
Would you really vote for someone who campaigned for Clinton despite the things that were said about him and done to him as evidenced by the Wikileaks emails? Where's his pride? He could have endorsed her at the convention and just remained quiet through Election Day but he had to humiliate himself publicly. And why did he do that? I'll tell you why. Because he thought campaigning for her and her win would carry over to the Senate and would make him in charge of the Budget panel. I was embarrassed for him. I think he's done.
No money that's why. Sanders believe it or not is in it for the money, he was paid a nice sum to step away and endorse Hillary. Not bad for being a Democratic party disrupter at age 75.
Exactly. Bernie got his shekels and ran. Shaking down Debbie and the DNC is a nice gig if you can fall into it.
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Trump is already taking the neo-fascist route, just look at his appointments. He will force the Republicans to kneel at his feet, and he won't hesitate to damage the democratic system itself if that's what it takes to maintain his power. It was clear from day 1 that's where he was headed.
Your questions assume that our system of elections will remain intact and uncorrupted, which is highly unlikely with people like Sessions and Bannon in the lead - and you further assume that a legitimate candidate with a fact based platform can have some chance of defeating a populist tyrant. Neither of these assumptions seem very sound to me.
Yeah, because we really had democracy with Bushes and Clintons fumbling the baton between each other. Enjoy the change!
Thats absurd. He's been a member of Congress for decades and could have sold out to special interests, Wall Street and big money all this time, instead deciding to serve the 99% against the onslaught from the billionaire class, being true to his convictions. He's a straight shooter and honest republicans will tell you that.
Do you know what the first major bill the Democrats pushed for? It was the energy bill that was six gazillion pages long 300 of which were added 3AM the day it was being voted on. That bill would of drove energy rates, home costs and a plethora of other things up substantially. This was 2009.... What were they thinking? Even in good economic times that would of been bitter pill to swallow.
I didn't say the (D)'s weren't stupid. I said it's very likely the GOP will be also.
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The Republicans are very conscious of what happened to Democrats in 2010 because they were driving an over the top liberal agenda. I don't think they will make that same mistake. The two things they will concentrate on is the economy and fixing Obamacare. They only need to be moderately successful....
The (R)'s had the House, Senate and White House under Bush and blew it. The (R)'s had very little to do with getting them back. They didn't win because of ideas. They won because they weren't the other guys.
Has Bernie expressed opinions about the third party candidates this year? He was and still identifies him as an independent, with the exception of the campaign period. Instead of attaching himself to the Democrats, why isn't he interested in helping supporting independents, third parties to increase their influences? It seems he could be the most effective to do so.
Thats absurd. He's been a member of Congress for decades and could have sold out to special interests, Wall Street and big money all this time, instead deciding to serve the 99% against the onslaught from the billionaire class, being true to his convictions. He's a straight shooter and honest republicans will tell you that.
You left out the part about Sanders being a Socialist. That's a non-starter as you know.
You left out the part about Sanders being a Socialist. That's a non-starter as you know.
How? FDR and JFK were very popular among the white working class and they were to the left of Sanders. Have you even watched FDR's vision of his Second Bill of rights?
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