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Old 12-20-2016, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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Trump is assembling his cabinet at a rate faster than any other president elect, and his choices are well received by practically everyone....except Dems. Big surprise there.
You also forgot Rand Paul, and any other conservative/libertarian out there who has any principles.
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Old 12-20-2016, 03:58 PM
 
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A lot depends on the economy in 2020. One thing is for certain. The Democrats have not stopped calling 62 million voters a bunch of racists, white supremists, nazis, etc. It would be unbelievable for them to ask those people to vote for Democrats in 2020 (or 2018, or ever). The divide between the East/Western coastal voters and Fly Over Country voters will continue to grow. If Trump adds Colorado, New Hampshire, and Minnesota to the electoral majority, it will be no contest.
Colorado was close but Minnesota was closer. The fact that Minnesota was closer than Colorado is insane.

It's actually shocking how close Minnesota came to voting for Trump - only 1.5% margin for Hillary. That's insane for a state that narrowly elected Mondale in 1984. Call it the Jesse Ventura effect

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Old 12-20-2016, 03:59 PM
 
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You also forgot Rand Paul, and any other conservative/libertarian out there who has any principles.


Paul only had complained about potentially adding John Bolton
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Old 12-20-2016, 04:14 PM
 
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Colorado was close but Minnesota was closer. The fact that Minnesota was closer than Colorado is insane.

It's actually shocking how close Minnesota came to voting for Trump - only 1.5% margin for Hillary. That's insane for a state that narrowly elected Mondale in 1984. Call it the Jesse Ventura effect
I believe there were really negative Obamacare-related headlines (53% increase) in MN less than a month before election day. Minnesota was actually my sleeper state -- I thought Trump had a better chance in Minnesota than WI/MI/PA. Trump may be able to carry MN in 2020!
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Old 12-20-2016, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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The incumbent always has an advantage, and you can bet Trump will take every advantage he can.
So, yes, he has a good shot at re-election, if he doesn't screw up too badly.
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Old 12-20-2016, 04:19 PM
 
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I believe there were really negative Obamacare-related headlines (53% increase) in MN less than a month before election day. Minnesota was actually my sleeper state -- I thought Trump had a better chance in Minnesota than WI/MI/PA. Trump may be able to carry MN in 2020!
There was a source around the August time frame that said MN's Hillary lead was cut in half - apparently it was way more than that!
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Old 12-20-2016, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Trump is a forgone conclusion to win in 2020

Please visit Trump Campaign Promise Tracker thread.

When there's no improved health care program, when the wall never goes up, when lone wolf terror attacks continue, when the market returns to the Bush 2008 along with unemployment rates return to GOP rates, then you've got to think American will wise-up.

So no, not a forgone conclusion by any means.

Clown Trump may figure he's over his head an not even run again.
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Old 12-20-2016, 04:42 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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The incumbent always has a leg up for reelection. Trump has moved a bunch of people over to his side already and he hasn't even been sworn in yet.

With that said, a lot can change and he could lose the re election. I would put his odds of winning in 2020 at 3 to 1 at this point.
I don't expect Trump to actually serve out his term. If he takes the job seriously, I expect he'll have a stroke or some cardiac event, due to overwork, stress, etc. If he doesn't take the job seriously, I expect that Pence will take up the slack, & he will suffer the overwork, stress, etc. Pence may survive, though - he looks fit enough.

I think Trump will simply get bored with the position. If so, he'll likely leave Pence to do the heavy lifting as VP, & just helicopter in from Trump Tower or wherever & sign some stuff, have a photo op, then back to Tweeting in the small hours of the day.

Yah, people voted for Trump - but I don't think they have any better idea of what Trump will do in any given situation than Trump himself does. @ least, if there's a consistent policy underlying all his remarks to date, I don't see it. We'll have to see how he does on policy.

But no, I don't expect Trump to run again, even if he is healthy enough. By then, he'll have been there & done that.
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Old 12-20-2016, 10:21 PM
 
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videos like this are why liberal democrats will keep failing



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBluYsydAVc
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Old 12-20-2016, 11:41 PM
 
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I agree. It is too soon. But if Democrats play by the same rules that they've been playing by lately then they'll likely start off at a disadvantage, having done nothing to seriously win back many of the white working class votes that they lost in 2016.




.......and in 2012, 2012 and 2014.
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