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Old 12-30-2016, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Nothing like some fake news to pollute your mind with.

Why don't you people just read the public report that was released yesterday.

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...hacking-report
You are wasting your time with facts. Aside from the fact that this a bipartisan investigation endorsed by GOP congress members who dislike Obama, and the fact that the FBI and CIA have no great love for Obama, some people will only see what they want or believe things that reinforce their world view.

Why do so many Republicans think Trump won the popular vote? Is it because they really do not understand math? There is a real world and there is the alternate right universe.

People who voted for a man who said global warming is a Chinese hoax and he could shoot people on Fifth Avenue with out losing The Following, will not believe anything unless it comes out of Trump's big mouth (or Putin's apparently).
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Old 12-30-2016, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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I still say trying to revive the Cold War with Russia to divert from the sins and crimes of Clinton and the Obama administration was low, but to be expected from such despicable people.
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Old 12-30-2016, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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We weren't duped; once the battle lines were drawn, it came down to a simple showdown. The Administration lost, its opposition heard, (and could parrot) what they wanted to hear and promote.
As much as we hated the tyrant Saddam; Iraq was stable under his iron hand rule and he hated Iran. We destabilized the whole area and it cost us thousands of American lives plus who knows how many Iraqi lives. We could go around the table with who said what and how it started. All I know is that the Bush poll numbers were sinking faster than a lead rowboat and then we came up with WMD's.

Afghanistan was the same thing. We went over there to get Bin Laden and he was in Pakistan all those years. Even today we do not say: Whoops - sorry; just a little mistake! Afghanistan even gave us troops to fight in Desert Storm - I don't think they will make that mistake again.

There is a tremendous amount of political pressure to find the terrorist that have successfully attacked America. Or there is tremendous pressure to raise sliding approval ratings. Leaders have to show us they are leaders and not non-effective sheep. Pressure flows downhill and appointees feel that pressure more than most.

Take Carter for example. Even though he was not 'right' for America; I thought that he really wanted to help (it just did not work out that way). His ratings were also dropping as the Iran hostage crisis drug on and on. Then he launched the ill-fated rescue mission. Did politics play a roll - very possibly?

The question is: How do we again improve the 'trustworthiness' of our intelligence agencies? I would rather have people in charge that have no political affiliation. Once somebody is appointed to one of these positions; they owe a favor. Those 'favors' cost the agencies credibility.
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Old 12-30-2016, 03:33 PM
 
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Exclusive: Benghazi Talking Points Underwent 12 Revisions, Scrubbed of Terror Reference




Exclusive: Benghazi Talking Points Underwent 12 Revisions, Scrubbed of Terror Reference - ABC News
I thought of this also. LIE after LIE after LIE
I remember that both Clapper and CIA Director John Brennan LIED to Congress and got caught doing it.

The sad fact is that these Agencies are not necessarily acting in American's best interest - just like the DOJ.
JOB 1 for them is "do what Obama says" and "protect Obama and his Leftist Administration".
We can't really Trust what they say ...... especially when we learned that this 'leaking/hacking' has been going on for years and they NEVER did anything about it -- UNTIL Hillary Clinton lost the elections and they decided to both Blame the Russians (because they must have massed on the border between Ohio & Wisconsin to keep her from EVER going to Wisconsin ) and to attempt to De-Legitimize the Election of Donald J. Trump as the 45th President of the United States.

It WON'T work.
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Old 12-30-2016, 03:42 PM
 
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Twenty nine percent of Americans were dumb enough to think the Trump click bait would stop at some point.
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Old 12-30-2016, 04:44 PM
 
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How did Hillary know it was the Russians, before any investigation took place? She wasn't even in the government at the time. How would a woman who had no knowledge of cyber security know who did the hacking before the President or any investigator claimed to know? That's pretty strange, unless it's all made up.
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Old 12-31-2016, 12:25 AM
 
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I still say trying to revive the Cold War with Russia to divert from the sins and crimes of Clinton and the Obama administration was low, but to be expected from such despicable people.
This sort of thing is typical of the Democrats.

Bill Clinton bombed Belgrade to divert attention from the Monica Lewinski scandal. In the process of doing that, he bombed the Chinese Embassy, almost starting WW III.

The Democrats are dangerous sociopaths, and it all comes out when they can't face reality -- which, in this case, is the fact that it's their own fault that they lost to Trump.
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Old 12-31-2016, 09:32 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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How did Hillary know it was the Russians, before any investigation took place? She wasn't even in the government at the time. How would a woman who had no knowledge of cyber security know who did the hacking before the President or any investigator claimed to know? That's pretty strange, unless it's all made up.
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Old 12-31-2016, 10:19 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Putin hacked the election and Trump has to be cordial with Putin, if he isn't, Putin will tell all, it's like Putin is blackmailing Trump.
I wonder if he has pics of Trump on his knees or something.

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I read the report. Nowhere does it say there is indisputable proof that the Russians "hacked" anything. They assume and speculate.


Regardless, if they got and released information, it was the INFORMATION they released that damaged Hillary. And the validity of that information was never questioned.
Indeed, they hacked INFORMATION and released INFORMATION about only ONE party. Do you imagine that Rance Preibus's emails would have been squeaky clean?

Do you?
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Old 12-31-2016, 10:26 AM
 
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Putin hacked the election and Trump has to be cordial with Putin, if he isn't, Putin will tell all, it's like Putin is blackmailing Trump.


Nobody "hacked" the Election.
What do you base this on?


Spread fictional stories that Obama thinks advantageous?
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