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Wow - if you do not count CA and NY, Trump was ahead by 3 million in popular vote. Meanwhile, those two states put HRC ahead by 2.8 million! I guess the electoral college really does its job.
I don't understand such reasoning. Why pick out two, and only two, states that went for Ms. Clinton? Why aren't you saying "don't count Texas and Alabama" for Mr. Trump?
In every presidential election the popular vote is reached via counting all states, with no subtraction. In 2012 President Obama won the popular vote by 5 million votes. I don't recall people saying "Ah, but if you subtract California (3 million votes) and New York (2 million votes) then it was very close for Mr. Romney!"
To use the young people's vernacular, 'it is what it is'. Mr. Trump lost the popular vote, but, more importantly, he won the electoral vote. I know that it ruffles his feathers that he did not win the popular vote, but his supporters should simply accept that fact and move on.
I don't understand such reasoning. Why pick out two, and only two, states that went for Ms. Clinton? Why aren't you saying "don't count Texas and Alabama" for Mr. Trump?
In every presidential election the popular vote is reached via counting all states, with no subtraction. In 2012 President Obama won the popular vote by 5 million votes. I don't recall people saying "Ah, but if you subtract California (3 million votes) and New York (2 million votes) then it was very close for Mr. Romney!"
To use the young people's vernacular, 'it is what it is'. Mr. Trump lost the popular vote, but, more importantly, he won the electoral vote. I know that it ruffles his feathers that he did not win the popular vote, but his supporters should simply accept that fact and move on.
New York City (which she won by 1.6 million) will never go red again, I believe. Trump won most of the rest of the state.
Never say never. From 1896 to 1928, the Republicans won New York in all but one presidential election. They won NY in 1948, 1952 and 1956 as well. Clearly it was very GOP friendly. California went red in every election from 1952 to 1988 with only one exception. Meanwhile, the South that presently always goes red used to always go blue 100% of the time prior to 1960.
Things change. The only certainty about change is uncertainty.
It's really just New York City and LA and other large cities...if you take out the counties and cities, trump won even larger. The popular vote and illegals are there not the Russians lol
I don't understand such reasoning. Why pick out two, and only two, states that went for Ms. Clinton? Why aren't you saying "don't count Texas and Alabama" for Mr. Trump?
In every presidential election the popular vote is reached via counting all states, with no subtraction. In 2012 President Obama won the popular vote by 5 million votes. I don't recall people saying "Ah, but if you subtract California (3 million votes) and New York (2 million votes) then it was very close for Mr. Romney!"
To use the young people's vernacular, 'it is what it is'. Mr. Trump lost the popular vote, but, more importantly, he won the electoral vote. I know that it ruffles his feathers that he did not win the popular vote, but his supporters should simply accept that fact and move on.
The emphasis on where Hillary's popular vote margin came from is in reaction to the emphasis she and her supporters place on her winning the popular vote. They keep beefing over his 'legitimacy,' aren't moving on, and ignore that the campaign was to win electoral college votes, not the popular vote. I think it's fair to point out that her pv 'win' came from 4 boroughs of NYC and parts of CA, not a national pattern.
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It's really just New York City and LA and other large cities...if you take out the counties and cities, trump won even larger. The popular vote and illegals are there not the Russians lol
Yes indeed...is not "California and NY" that put her over the top in the popular vote but just a handful of counties.
It's really just New York City and LA and other large cities...if you take out the counties and cities, trump won even larger. The popular vote and illegals are there not the Russians lol
True. If you take out most of the voters, the election results are quite likely to be different. Duh.
I wish Gary Johnson would sue NY and California to force them to do recounts. I am sure quite a lot of voter fraud would be uncovered if a thorough investigation were done. In California, I'm confident hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants voted, if not millions.
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