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Old 12-28-2016, 07:08 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
The working class that will be hit the hardest...voted Trump

1 couple of simple questions for you, How many "middle class" people have worked for Trump over his years of building and maintaining his businesses?

Obviously you do NOT understand he is in the CONSTRUCTION business and employs HUNDREDS of middle class construction workers at any given time.

And what about the "middle class" people ,who work in supplying all the materials needed to build these products?

How many middle class people work for him NOW?

Me thinks, you do NOT know what you are talking about.
If Trump had was a Democrat the left would be cheering.

 
Old 12-28-2016, 11:30 AM
 
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Proven wrong WHEN? The prosperity will be for the top 1%, the rest of us will be screwed.

Say Good-Bye to eight years of growth.
amazing calling Obama a signifcant growth for 8 long years is a joke. The True unemployed (counting thise who have given up) is around 4.6 and is actuall closer to 7 % (Nov).

Oyr GNP has not came out of 3% and on average is 1%.

Not a bell ringer!
 
Old 12-28-2016, 08:14 PM
 
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amazing calling Obama a signifcant growth for 8 long years is a joke. The True unemployed (counting thise who have given up) is around 4.6 and is actuall closer to 7 % (Nov).

Oyr GNP has not came out of 3% and on average is 1%.

Not a bell ringer!
It's called the bigotry of low expectations. Obama could have played golf for 8 years every day and they would have declared him a great president lol
 
Old 12-28-2016, 08:23 PM
 
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It's called the bigotry of low expectations. Obama could have played golf for 8 years every day and they would have declared him a great president lol

Had he done so, GDP growth would be higher.
 
Old 12-28-2016, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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So the people will be hurt by the GOP tax cut that will look like Kansas and NC. Big cuts for the wealthy increases for those in the middle to low earners.

So higher taxes and fewer services for those who have the least to pay.
 
Old 12-28-2016, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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Obama could have played golf for 8 years every day and they would have declared him a great president lol
No, not actually. MANY who voted for O were mightily disappointed/turned off and therefore many of us did not vote for Hillary. Democrats can be far more objective than those who fall strictly in line with their party, proclaiming a candidate riddled with publicly noted faults to be the best thing for America. The hatred for the liberal point of view is blinding. If you're wealthy under Trump, you're good to go. If you hope for a return from your SS and Medicare pay-ins, good luck. I won't even bother to bring up other issues, as they are obviously not issues for you. I can't wait to see that wall.
 
Old 12-29-2016, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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They are envious as it was a Republican who saved jobs. It is going to be a miserable many years for them, as 1/20 reminds them America rejected their criminal nominee.
And, instead, elected an even BIGGER CRIMINAL and LIAR. Numerous bankrupticies, stiffing thousands of the little guy, squandering and foolish spending in his casinos and elsewhere designed to steal money from the banks by renegotiating multi-million dollar debts, setting up a phony charity to pay his own bills. Of course, you will deny any of that ever happened. All documented fact, uncomfortable though that reality is.

Trump is an amoral criminal and thief by 10x - with ZERO character.

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Originally Posted by Boss View Post
So the people will be hurt by the GOP tax cut that will look like Kansas and NC. Big cuts for the wealthy increases for those in the middle to low earners.

So higher taxes and fewer services for those who have the least to pay.
Indeed. Here is reality:
  • Drain the Swamp - means exactly the opposite - i.e., stock the swamp w/guys from Goldman Sachs
  • Noninterventionist - means exactly the opposite - appoint rumor-mongering/war-mongering Mike Flynn as National Security Advisor and neocon hawk John Bolton as Asst. SOS - both of whom will encourage boots on the ground, and multiple fields of engagement around the world
  • "Saving" Medicare/SS - means exactly the opposite - "bazooka in his pocket" Paul Ryan/Tom Price - opponents of both these programs - as designated architects of "saving" these programs which in reality, over time, will render health insurance for the elderly unaffordable, and SS a fond memory as bit by bit the financial underpinnings are removed under the guise of "privatization."
  • Built the Wall - means maybe a fence, and for sure Mexico will NOT pay for it
  • Middle Class Tax Relief - means financial calamity via higher deficits and debt with this borrowed money to cover tax relief for the top 1%, while the poorest and Middle Class will be paying MORE tax
  • 25 Million More Jobs - means financial calamity via higher deficits and debt to fund tax cuts for corporations which they will use to buy back stock and pay dividends, not create more jobs, which means no increase in tax revenues
  • Last two of which balloon the debt and deficit to the point the economy crashes - again.
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/_lan...ontractv02.pdf

Time to batten down the hatches and prepare for war and financial calamity - because sure as death and taxes - when the GOP rules, it never ends well.

Count on it.

Last edited by Ariadne22; 12-29-2016 at 12:59 AM..
 
Old 12-29-2016, 04:44 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Count on it.
What I am counting on is that fact that you are afraid that Trump will work for America! You would rather have a globalist that embraces the problems we see in Germany, France and all the other countries that bought into open borders.

Why don't you sit down; take a deep breath and relax. Trump will not be in office until January 20th. Many of us are expecting significant changes in how government is run. We expect to see a government that is open and honest without the media lying to us every second.

Don't forget that the buck will stop on Trump's desk. Your side will make sure of that! Cut him some slack and give him some time - then you can complain after he actually does something!
 
Old 12-29-2016, 04:56 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Biggest problem is Nutty Don and his ego need to be in spotlight 24/7. Only bad things will come of this. Says stupid things and then tries to walk back. Has no idea how Gov't. works and will be run by the alligators in the swamp.
 
Old 12-29-2016, 04:58 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Biggest problem is Nutty Don and his ego need to be in spotlight 24/7. Only bad things will come of this. Says stupid things and then tries to walk back. Has no idea how Gov't. works and will be run by the alligators in the swamp.
If the winner was 'Nutty' what was the looser?
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