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Old 03-05-2008, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Here's a link to a very interesting story. Hillary will still be behind on the pledged (democratically elected) delegates, even if she wins the following states with the following margins, even after last night's victories:

Wyoming: 53-47
Mississippi: 52-48
Pennsylvania: 60-40
Indiana: 55-45
North Carolina: 52-48
West Virginia: 55-45
Kentucky: 55-45
Puerto Rico: 60-40

Even with these unlikely numbers, Obama will still have a 58 delegate lead in the people's delegate count. If this is true, what's the point for continuing the race?
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:36 AM
 
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Here's a link to a very interesting story. Hillary will still be behind on the pledged (democratically elected) delegates, even if she wins the following states with the following margins, even after last night's victories:

Wyoming: 53-47
Mississippi: 52-48
Pennsylvania: 60-40
Indiana: 55-45
North Carolina: 52-48
West Virginia: 55-45
Kentucky: 55-45
Puerto Rico: 60-40

Even with these unlikely numbers, Obama will still have a 58 delegate lead in the people's delegate count. If this is true, what's the point for continuing the race?

Why??? Because true WINNERS FIGHT TO THE END. Boxers fight to the end, and they are encouraged to do so, and fight for the prize at the end of a long and often-bloody battle. Heaven forbid that a mere woman does the same. If she does so, then she is the idiot. Thank God that most of us recognize that God has given us brains to use and to think for ourselves.
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:42 AM
 
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Seems neither will get the numbers they need to get the nomination.I definely don't see her dropping out after yesterday or taking the VP spot.
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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Well, she's hoping for a miracle just like Huckabee. Huckabee probably thought McCain's Health would somewhat take toll on during the primaries as is Clinton thinking that somewhat safety would.....to Obama.
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Here's a link to a very interesting story. Hillary will still be behind on the pledged (democratically elected) delegates, even if she wins the following states with the following margins, even after last night's victories:

Wyoming: 53-47
Mississippi: 52-48
Pennsylvania: 60-40
Indiana: 55-45
North Carolina: 52-48
West Virginia: 55-45
Kentucky: 55-45
Puerto Rico: 60-40

Even with these unlikely numbers, Obama will still have a 58 delegate lead in the people's delegate count. If this is true, what's the point for continuing the race?
I don't get it either. But I think Hillary is hoping things will be close enough and Michigan/Florida get re-done and those two states seem like Hillary states to me. So she's hoping she can pull off some sort of miracle.

I was a little annoyed at the press coverage yesterday. They seemed to be hyping up a Hillary victory. But in reality she was still back by like a 100 delegates at the end of the night. I think the press wants the race to keep going obviously as it generates more news for them.

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Old 03-05-2008, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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I think the press wants the race to keep going obviously as it generates more news for them.
Bingo. There was an article about that recently. The press gives the positive attention to the underdog because it continues the fight and continues their coverage which continues their ratings, which keeps the advertising dollars coming.
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Seems neither will get the numbers they need to get the nomination.I definely don't see her dropping out after yesterday or taking the VP spot.
That's true when you take ALL of the delegates into account, but it seems like Obama has the ultimate lead in delegates that the voters have decided on. If party insiders overturn the will of the people, the party will be committing suicide.
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:40 AM
 
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Rhetorical Question:

Do you think Hillary would be arguing for Michigan and Florida's votes to count if she hadn't won those states?
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Here's a link to a very interesting story. Hillary will still be behind on the pledged (democratically elected) delegates, even if she wins the following states with the following margins, even after last night's victories:

Wyoming: 53-47
Mississippi: 52-48
Pennsylvania: 60-40
Indiana: 55-45
North Carolina: 52-48
West Virginia: 55-45
Kentucky: 55-45
Puerto Rico: 60-40

Even with these unlikely numbers, Obama will still have a 58 delegate lead in the people's delegate count. If this is true, what's the point for continuing the race?
First off, Obama leads in Miss., Ind. (by double digits), N.C., Wyo. as well is considered his, don't know about W. Va or Kentucky. It just further underscores how she has to rely on super delegates. I don't care what anyone says, if Obama at the end of the day, leads in pledged delegates he should be the nominee. For super delegates to overturn that would be tantamount to stealing the nomination, something many in the party will never go for.
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Old 03-05-2008, 10:10 AM
 
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Here's a link to a very interesting story. Hillary will still be behind on the pledged (democratically elected) delegates, even if she wins the following states with the following margins, even after last night's victories:

Wyoming: 53-47
Mississippi: 52-48
Pennsylvania: 60-40
Indiana: 55-45
North Carolina: 52-48
West Virginia: 55-45
Kentucky: 55-45
Puerto Rico: 60-40

Even with these unlikely numbers, Obama will still have a 58 delegate lead in the people's delegate count. If this is true, what's the point for continuing the race?
Clinton will most likely win Indiana by a larger margin than indicated above, I can pretty much assure you of that. As a politically active resident that is my take. I wonder if the other numbers might be similarly off.

It is not over for Clinton at all. Just watch as the time-tested and proven Clinton machine ramps up.
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