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Old 04-21-2017, 12:37 AM
 
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If libs keep it up with their stupid stuff, this is what the 2020 election would look like:

Bring it on. I'll be taking the front seat to watch them lose again.
Trump is the most inept president we have ever had. He seems to need his kids to tell him what to do. But the fact is.....his kids have no idea either. I think many of us see going into another war even when Trump told us american came first. Just more lies by him.
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I think Trump has a very good chance of winning re-election ... but seriously, he's not carrying most of the solidly blue states as those are the bastion of "libs" who "keep it up with their stupid stuff". My guess is that if the Democrats nominate a weak candidate, the economy is healthy and Americans perceive the country as safe and are satisfied with his leadership, he'll win all the states he carried in 2016 plus a few more:

306 - from 2016
4 - New Hampshire
10 - Minnesota
2 - Maine (statewide)
6 - Nevada
9 - Colorado

... for a total of 337. I do not see a scenario where he wins anything else, but will humbly admit the limits of my predictive competence if he proves me wrong in 2020.
my guess: why are we even thinking 2020 right now and why does anyone think he will even want to run again?
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Yup. People are already seeing through Trump's lies and his "anti-establishment" stick is wearing thin already after filling his cabinet with more Wall Street bankers than Obama did. He's eager to feed the military industrial complex and corporate cronies. He won't have the luxury against running against a very hated, unpopular candidate in Hillary again.
seeing through his lies, is that why his poll numbers are rising?
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:56 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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IF its the same people again. I predict pretty much the same map.
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:08 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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seeing through his lies, is that why his poll numbers are rising?
Post like this are why we are so polarized as a nation, people cant have an honest discussion.

His numbers are down vs the election, and down vs his inauguration, Yes, he has had an uptick in the last week or so, but it isnt enough to negate the previous 3 months
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:51 AM
 
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seeing through his lies, is that why his poll numbers are rising?
At this point in time in his term, as a basis of comparison, Trump is the least popular new President since World War II as measured by the Gallup Poll. It's not even close. The next least popular President was Bill Clinton in 1993, and he was 14 points higher than Trump.

Digging inside the numbers, Trump retains the support of 87% of Republicans, 9% of Democrats and 37% of Independents. The support among Republicans is 4 points higher than on average, but his support among opposition party members and Independents are all time lows.

Trump's Job Approval in First Quarter Lowest by 14 Points | Gallup

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Old 04-21-2017, 10:13 AM
 
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Trump is locked to win in 2020. The Democrats have no one to run
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Old 04-21-2017, 12:32 PM
 
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Trump is locked to win in 2020. The Democrats have no one to run
Not if he loses Independents. The Dems will get 48% of the pop vote regardless of whom they nominate. It will depend how they break down state by state. Will Trump hold on to enough white college grad voters in key states while continuing to dominate white non- college voters? Will there continue to be a demographic decline in white non-college voters and what will be the gap in R support between the two white groups? The answer to those questions will determine the outcome in 2020 and for a long time to come.

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Old 04-21-2017, 01:42 PM
 
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I think Trump has a very good chance of winning re-election ... but seriously, he's not carrying most of the solidly blue states as those are the bastion of "libs" who "keep it up with their stupid stuff". My guess is that if the Democrats nominate a weak candidate, the economy is healthy and Americans perceive the country as safe and are satisfied with his leadership, he'll win all the states he carried in 2016 plus a few more:

306 - from 2016
4 - New Hampshire
10 - Minnesota
2 - Maine (statewide)
6 - Nevada
9 - Colorado

... for a total of 337. I do not see a scenario where he wins anything else, but will humbly admit the limits of my predictive competence if he proves me wrong in 2020.
This 100%. Trump came within 1.3% or something of winning Minnesota. Yes people, Walter Mondale loving Minnesota. Closer than Colorado which to me was shocking. That state lit up RED on election night.

I think he will win NH, MN, ME but CO and NV is a stretch, IMHO.
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Old 04-21-2017, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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At this point in time in his term, as a basis of comparison, Trump is the least popular new President since World War II as measured by the Gallup Poll. It's not even close. The next least popular President was Bill Clinton in 1993, and he was 14 points higher than Trump.

Digging inside the numbers, Trump retains the support of 87% of Republicans, 9% of Democrats and 37% of Independents. The support among Republicans is 4 points higher than on average, but his support among opposition party members and Independents are all time lows.

Trump's Job Approval in First Quarter Lowest by 14 Points | Gallup
I certainly can not argue with you on this, but I was just addressing one poster who claimed his numbers were down: the person obviously has no clue. He is biased due to his dislike of our president.
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