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Oh I see what your doing.. nice tactic. Hey if you like women being slaves, and having no rights, and can be stone to death just because they happened to look at another man, and are force to look down and be covered head to toe, are not allowed to be educated and all that, then who am I to complain right?
Sure we will call it culture. Barbaric, but culture.. I mean if you don't know there is a place where women can not only be educated, have rights, and are equal to men, what harm is there to live like that?
What if I did ask, and they told me to save them, what if they ran to me asking for protection held onto my leg and begged me to not allow the men chasing them to kill them? What if that did happen, and I was told to back off it is not our concern, what if I disobeyed and shot the men dead and protected the women, because of how I was raised, and there was a life in danger.. what if.. who would be right here, you? me? how about instead of being a procrastinator, you tell me what you think.. instead of asking me what I think? Its easy to sit there and be smug when you have not seen it, and are unwilling to put your thoughts out there to be judged. coward.
But lets also get back on topic.. How do you think the Middle East will accept a Women as the President of the USA?
Um, just wondering but are you a woman? I may be totally wrong -- and correct me if I am -- but unless you are a woman and truly concerned about the plight of women around the world, I find this post repugnant.
See, if you AREN'T a woman and have no vested interest in this issue, then you are basically USING the plight of women elsewhere as a reason to make a point about why a woman should not be the President of the United States. That, of course, would make you little better than the Middle Eastern men you're highlighting because you're using a poor excuse to discriminate against women.
Oh, and as another person said, Condi Rice doesn't seem to be having difficulties with the Middle Eastern people.
Have any of you been to the middle east? If you have then you know what they think of women. What effect do you think a Women President would have on our trade and negotiation's with those countries.
Excellent question and one that I wish our press would ask. As it isn't something we consider off hand but it is something we should. Example in the post below.
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How well has C. Rice done?
Condoleezza Rice has been a tepid Sec. of State at best and does not have a great deal to hang on her wall for her efforts. In fact, I don't recall many efforts Condoleezza has made that were put into a context of, "Condi, deliver this message to Putin and see what he says" -GW.
It isn't just the Middle East either, as many cultures still view women as a notch below men, so it is even more relevant on how she handles foreign affairs, and is probably unfair that she would have to preform exemplary to merely be viewed as adequate by some other cultures. Then again, life isn't fair.
How would they deal with her? Women are not even people over there, they are property. But now that you mention it.. how would a head strong women like Hillery deal with that, and how would they deal with her?
Haha here's another sexist remark...."headstrong" woman ... I guess there aren't any "headstrong" males running for, or holding, office!!!
Oh, that's right ...MEN are brave and assertive, they "stay the course"...women are "headstrong"
Are you saying women shouldn't hold high offices because SOME PEOPLE don't think much of women?
Have any of you been to the middle east? If you have then you know what they think of women. What effect do you think a Women President would have on our trade and negotiation's with those countries.
My wife lived in Egypt, what exactly are you on about?
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Oh I see what your doing.. nice tactic. Hey if you like women being slaves, and having no rights, and can be stone to death just because they happened to look at another man, and are force to look down and be covered head to toe, are not allowed to be educated and all that, then who am I to complain right?
Sure we will call it culture. Barbaric, but culture.. I mean if you don't know there is a place where women can not only be educated, have rights, and are equal to men, what harm is there to live like that?
What if I did ask, and they told me to save them, what if they ran to me asking for protection held onto my leg and begged me to not allow the men chasing them to kill them? What if that did happen, and I was told to back off it is not our concern, what if I disobeyed and shot the men dead and protected the women, because of how I was raised, and there was a life in danger.. what if.. who would be right here, you? me? how about instead of being a procrastinator, you tell me what you think.. instead of asking me what I think? Its easy to sit there and be smug when you have not seen it, and are unwilling to put your thoughts out there to be judged. coward.
But lets also get back on topic.. How do you think the Middle East will accept a Women as the President of the USA?
you need to stop watching fox news, its making you sound extremely uninformed.
Well, they wouldn't shake her hand ... but chances are, she would will have a male as secretary of state anyway, maybe someone who actually has an academic background in the middle eastern area, instead of a soviet union specialist.
Ha, ha...no one seems to want to offer an opinion on what I think is a valid question. So... I think that Rice has been dealt with because she is an envoy. I have no idea what traditional ME countries thing of her, but if they are consistent with their cultural beliefs, they have to disapprove of her lifestyle. I can only imagine that feeling would transfer to Clinton. Would she cover her head or wear a scarf to deal with them? As a woman, I would find that highly offensive. She would be representing our country, where women don't have to do that (yet...right, Pat Robertson?), so I would expect her to wear Western dress. I don't know if they would deal with her respectfully or not...
I think that in most middle eastern nations, it would not make much of a difference. The middle east has had, and continues to have strong women leaders in high political positions. Benazir Bhutto is only one example.
Syria and Iran have both had women vice-presidents. The US is the country that has not.
Ha, ha...no one seems to want to offer an opinion on what I think is a valid question.
Thank you, I was noticing the very same thing, instead they want to attack me or make this about me, rather than the question. I am not making any political statement or making a sexist remark.. I am not even doubting anyones abilities for the job of President. I am just wanting to know how they they think a Women as the President would be thought of, or dealt with as the Leader of the most powerful nation on the planet. The Middle East has some regions that women have no rights, and in a political setting how would that effect Hillery's leadership abilities. Would these Terrorist think we are a weaker nation with a women as President and step up the attacks, due to the lack of respect to women?
I haven't seen this to be the case in Germany, which currently has a female leader.
I truly do not think it would make one iota of difference. Fanatics who don't like the US to the point of wanting to kill civilians are still not going to like US if we change the gender of our leader.
Just to be clear people, there are a lot of female leaders. In looking up current female leaders I came across this site below.
The biggest weakness in this list though is that it includes women leaders by way of royalty, which as an American, I'm naturally suspicious of. The upside of this website is that is has a picture of Yulia Tymoshenko and her fabulous braids
I haven't seen this to be the case in Germany, which currently has a female leader.
I truly do not think it would make one iota of difference. Fanatics who don't like the US to the point of wanting to kill civilians are still not going to like US if we change the gender of our leader.
Just to be clear people, there are a lot of female leaders. In looking up current female leaders I came across this site below.
The biggest weakness in this list though is that it includes women leaders by way of royalty, which as an American, I'm naturally suspicious of. The upside of this website is that is has a picture of Yulia Tymoshenko and her fabulous braids
You misunderstand me.. I am not saying women can not lead and do it well or effectively. I am saying that the USA is the supreme power of the world, and in being such, and being in big war with the middle east, how will that effect the attitude with the USA if Hillery were to become president? Some of the countries out there may have no dealings with the middle east..
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