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If Dems suddenly stop hating wwc, and become staunchly protectionist, perhaps.
Not by simply putting up another elitist Acela Belt appealing snob who hates the wwc, and wants their industries like coal, dead.
Trump is Acela belt. Republicans arent protectionist either. Trump has already said he will renegotiate trade deals, and no one is going to sign a trade deal that is favorable to america workers because the only nations with equal or better standards are in Europe, every other deal would hurt the countries we want to trade with.
As for Coal, it has been dying since the 1970's. At least Democrats tried to protect and retain its workers, where as Republicans are trying to save a dying industry.
Obamacare is a key example of this whether you like it or not. Ocare meant these families would have healthcare for not only their pre existing conditions, but that the companies responsible for them getting these diseases would help out with care and payments.
If Dems suddenly stop hating wwc, and become staunchly protectionist, perhaps.
Not by simply putting up another elitist Acela Belt appealing snob who hates the wwc, and wants their industries like coal, dead.
LOL, your post is so blindly partisan and hyperbolic it's funny.
You honestly think they "hate" the white working class? Haha.
70,000 collectively between 3 very populous states is hardly a large deficit to overcome. Especially since, statistically and historically speaking, 2016 could be seen as merely an aberration. When was the last time the GOP won those three states- the 1980s? Sanders probably would have won them and everything Clinton did as well.
Also, coal is dying no matter if it's Trump, Clinton, Sanders or anybody for that matter, in the White House. It's a largely obsolete industry and we have cheaper and cleaner ways to produce energy. Or do you not believe in the free market and competition?
Instead of waving the "protectionist" banner both the GOP and the Dems need to realize that globalization isn't going anywhere. Some current estimates put as much as 40% of all jobs in the economy (blue and white collar) at risk of being lost to automation and technology in the coming years. The technological revolution has only just begun, and we as a country better figure out how we're going to deal with it. And if anybody thinks staunch protectionism is the answer then I think they're deluded, uninformed and in for a rude awakening to be honest.
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LOL, your post is so blindly partisan and hyperbolic it's funny.
You honestly think they "hate" the white working class? Haha.
70,000 collectively between 3 very populous states is hardly a large deficit to overcome. Especially since, statistically and historically speaking, 2016 could be seen as merely an aberration. When was the last time the GOP won those three states- the 1980s? Sanders probably would have won them and everything Clinton did as well.
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Its huge to overcome, as you ignore for Dems losing any ONE is game, set, and match. Odds of taking all 3 when each 50/50 are one in eight. (1/2*2*2).
Plus the deplorables comment like Mitts 47% one can't be walked back.
Add in, the Rust Belt was a huge cog of Reagan Dems. In 2016, many came home to the GOP.
Sanders was anti NAFTA. The DNC is not. They will need to jump on the populist bandwagon on that issue to have any shot there. They will need to stop burdening coal with extra regs while gloating "We're gonna kill lots of coal jobs".
DNC hates the wwc, as it is now elitist in nature, usurped by Acela Belt/Wall St ties.
Its huge to overcome, as you ignore for Dems losing any ONE is game, set, and match. Plus the deplorables comment like Mitts 47% one can't be walked back.
Add in, the Rust Belt was a huge cog of Reagan Dems. In 2016, many came home to the GOP.
Sanders was anti NAFTA. The DNC is not. They will need to jump on the populist bandwagon on that issue to have any shot there. They will need to stop burdening coal with extra regs while gloating "We're gonna kill lots of coal jobs".
DNS hates the wwc, as it is now elitist in nature, usurped by Acela Belt/Wall St ties.
LOL, but it swings both ways. You seem to be under the misguided perception that these states are now permanently GOP aligned and that simply is inaccurate and improbable. 70,000 people between 2 states in the 10 most populous in the nation and the third in the top 20 is not a lot of people. Especially when the Dems put up a less than inspiring candidate to say the very least. Furthermore, as I pointed out previously, statistically and historically, these three states in particular aren't GOP strongholds.
FL is the definition of a swing state and Trump also didn't win NC or AZ by large margins either. Obama won NC in 2008 and a strong Dem candidate could do the same and probably flip AZ too as the Hispanic population is surging there.
You seem to see politics as static and I'm not sure why. In 2005 did you think Obama would be president? Or in 2013 did you think Trump would be president?
The Dems could easily hop on the populist bandwagon and take the party in that direction a la Jeremy Corbyn in the UK. It is the Dems' roots after all. You act like it's an impossible undertaking.
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Having lived there 17 years, I understand the region. GOP has 33 govs, and in 24 states all chamber control. Each census, they draw the maps. LBJ showed us how to Gerry mander. Southern demographics have changed some, but the Southeast is still rock solid GOP. That won't change for several decades to come. Southern races are not nail biters. Can't erase double digit beatings by new population growth.
The south is either stupid or naive. They are some of the poorest states yet keep voting for the same party year after year and nothing changes for them. Time for a wake up call ....how about trying something new and different and vote the other party. It just might be better for them lol It certainly couldn't be anything worse. I'm from Mississippi and the only family who moved north. All my relatives live in the south.
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