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Old 03-11-2008, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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As important as it is to use good judgment when using the term "racist", it's equally as important that none of us presume to be the judge of who/what is or isn't racist.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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When a member of the Obama campaign has said something stupid, the Clinton campaign has made a big deal about it and called on Obama to condemn the remarks.

Strangely, well maybe not so strangely considering it's Hillary and Mark Penn, she hasn't said a word about Ferraro.
Right. But this is a message board, not "The Situation Room". No one is required to return every moronic and childish campaign remark. Besides, is it really necessary to add to the stupidity just because the Clinton's do it?
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Old 03-11-2008, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Land of 10000 Lakes + some
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I don't know if Ferraro is a "racist" or not. I do know that what she said was racially offensive and ignorant in several ways.

She ought to know that just because a person isn't white or male, doesn't mean they ought to be reduced to a "concept". When she was running for VP on Walter Mondale's ticket, I'm sure she took exception with people who thought of her as a "concept".

But apparently, she doesn't think that Senator Obama, because he's Black, ought to be afforded that same respect and deference.
I agree and find this offensive because it's as if he didn't earn it.. And for those of you who really do not know, successful African-Americans have had to try harder. Lucky my a--.
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Old 03-11-2008, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I didn't quite understand her point about the superdelegates, but if she's asserting that a white man with his qualifications wouldn't be successful, she's right. The host probably thought so, too, because he said "like John Edwards." Bingo! I thought it was interesting that she said if she were a man she wouldn't have been selected as the VP nominee in the '80s.

It is what it is and accusations of "racism" don't change that.
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Old 03-11-2008, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Ms. Ferraro also believes that the media are being very sexist toward Clinton.

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"I think what America feels about a woman becoming president takes a very secondary place to Obama's campaign — to a kind of campaign that it would be hard for anyone to run against," she said. "For one thing, you have the press, which has been uniquely hard on her. It's been a very sexist media. Some just don't like her. The others have gotten caught up in the Obama campaign."
Does Senator Clinton feel that the media are being sexist? I'd like to hear from her on that, as well as Ms. Ferraro's racial comments about Senator Obama.
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Old 03-11-2008, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I didn't quite understand her point about the superdelegates, but if she's asserting that a white man with his qualifications wouldn't be successful, she's right. The host probably thought so, too, because he said "like John Edwards." Bingo! I thought it was interesting that she said if she were a man she wouldn't have been selected as the VP nominee in the '80s.

It is what it is and accusations of "racism" don't change that.
The reality is that John Edwards' credentials were no impressive than Obama's or Clinton's. What's more, he had every opportunity to compete; convey a message; and raise money just like everyone else. And with credentials being subjective, the voters--and their $$$--are saying that Obama's are best, followed closely by Clinton's.

But to heap resentment on the Black man because he's more popular and/or successful than the white woman, reeks of racial paternalism--the key reason I left the Democratic Party.
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Old 03-11-2008, 03:14 PM
 
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I am an african american woman who has said the same thing. The simple fact is obama is unqualified for the job and nope it's not just about his age or lack of political experience for me I just think he is too weak of a man to be the president.
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Old 03-11-2008, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Austin
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....if she's asserting that a white man with his qualifications wouldn't be successful, she's right.
Do you think a woman with Hillary's qualifications who wasn't married to a 2-term president of the United States would be successful? Really?
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Old 03-11-2008, 03:20 PM
 
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I didn't quite understand her point about the superdelegates, but if she's asserting that a white man with his qualifications wouldn't be successful, she's right. The host probably thought so, too, because he said "like John Edwards." Bingo! I thought it was interesting that she said if she were a man she wouldn't have been selected as the VP nominee in the '80s.

It is what it is and accusations of "racism" don't change that.
Bingo! But unfortunately noone cares about skills this time because white and black americans alike are so desperate for a black president. And since a "nice" black man is running they will overlook his poor leadership and communications skills with people just to get him in office. And these people don't consider that our country will suffer the consequences of obama inability to get the job done.
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Old 03-11-2008, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Do you think a woman with Hillary's qualifications who wasn't married to a 2-term president of the United States would be successful? Really?
If Hillary wasn't married to Bill, would she have gone into politics in the first place? I have no idea for sure but it's quite likely. She was tapped for prestigious and high-profile roles before she married Bill, so that probably would have continued. She is 60 years old and has had 14 more years than Obama to amass experience.

If anything, I think her marriage is more of a hindrance in this election than a help. Reducing her to "Bill's wife" and downplaying her own intelligence, education, and experience has been a favorite ploy here.
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