NBC Poll: Trump in far worst position than Clinton in 1993

[homeonthelittlemountain]

Anecdotally.....my daughter lives in northeastern NC. Very rural, southern baptist area. My daughter and NC family attend church most Sundays. Unemployment is high...that’s an ongoing challenge.

I think everyone in her huge extended family voted for Trump. But now these same voters are worried about healthcare. Many believe they were lied to about the tax cut. I don’t,won’t discuss politics with them. But these are the murmurings I’m hearing. I’m surprised. Most of the women....about 15 in the group I was in....are repulsed by Trump and we’re quite vocal in their displeasure.

This is just one little family in NE NC. Who knows? But the enthusiasm has flipped 180 from this time last year.

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by homeonthelittlemountain

Anecdotally.....my daughter lives in northeastern NC. Very rural, southern baptist area. My daughter and NC family attend church most Sundays. Unemployment is high...that’s an ongoing challenge.

I think everyone in her huge extended family voted for Trump. But now these same voters are worried about healthcare. Many believe they were lied to about the tax cut.

They were lied to about the tax cut? How so?

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by homeonthelittlemountain

Many believe they were lied to about the tax cut.

Originally Posted by Fleet

They were lied to about the tax cut? How so?

Still waiting for an answer, mountain.

[Bureaucat]

Originally Posted by nsgjdennis

Here she goes again with all the "White People are dying" garbage so they don't matter. I HIGHLY suggest everyone check out her post history. It's nothing but this and "WHITE MEN ARE EVIL". She refused to say what her ethnicity is but I think we can call guess. Anyway don't bother responding to her. She obviously doesn't know her butthole from a hole in the ground.

“She” is a 69 year old white man.

I don’t hate old, white men at all, since I am one, but I’m smart enough to read demographic tables and know that a party that specifically targets old, resentful, white men doesn’t have a great future, unless it totally changes it's policies and focuses on attracting a younger and more diverse, demographic. The longer the GOP goes before shifting their focus to attracting a more diverse, and also a younger, better educated, and less racially driven white electorate, the more difficulty they will have in the long run in a country that becomes more diverse and better educated with the passage of each year.

[homeonthelittlemountain]

Originally Posted by Fleet

Still waiting for an answer, mountain.

Didn’t bother to read this thread until now. No need to stalk me, got it? The gist of the conversation I heard was this:

They are repulsed by Trump and his tweets. His apparent lack of integrity and mocking of others. They thought he would “calm down and act presidential” after the election. They are stunned by his continued “whining” and “vileness.” They don’t believe he is working in their best interest unless he is personally rewarded as well.

They think the tax cut is a long con. They admitted they might see small gains early on but those will be wiped away after Trump (they didn’t refer to republicans, just to Trump) decreases to Medicare and social security benefits in the future. They believe Trump has lied to them. They don’t trust him anymore based on what they’ve seen this past year.

Let me reiterate....I’m sure they all voted for Trump and I know they all watch Fox News. This is why I was so surprised by the turn of the conversation. This is a rural community of loving, decent people. They all go to the same Baptist Church.

The area has been decimated by companies moving overseas. Unemployment is high. They help each other. The last thing they believe in is trickle down economic theories. They’ve had years of being left high and dry by local industry. They are bitter.

Keep in mind, this is a lower income community. Think that through. They don’t have a lot of investments. Yes, they will get some money back initially but they aren’t stupid. Based on what they’ve been through....and I heard it more than once.....they believe the wealthy will benefit and they will get crumbs.

They've all seen what lack of healthcare does to families and communities. Many have healthcare through the ACA. They don’t like it, but without it, they would have nothing. Trump's trashing of the ACA worries them.

I have family in Northridge, if that is where you live. If you’ve always lived in that area, you wouldn’t understand how remarkable this conversation was. You have to understand southern, rural communities. A few of the women admitted to being ashamed that they had voted for Trump.