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Old 03-12-2018, 01:42 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Despite scant evidence, the Democrats still claim that Hillary lost because of "Russian interference" in our elections. This has been their mantra ever since Donald Trump won, and they accuse him of "colluding" with the Russians in order to win.

In California, Gov. Brown has made it possible for non-citizens to vote by issuing drivers licenses to illegal aliens, which is all that is necessary for them to register to vote. This also goes for any other non-citizens, even if they are here legally.

Other Democrat states as well are passing, or considering passing legislation that would allow non-citizens to vote, in direct violation of the Constitution.

How is this not interfering with our electoral process, far more than the alleged "Russian interference?"

The answer should be obvious.

Non citizens should not be choosing our government for us. "We the People" refers to U.S. citizens, and our government is supposed to be "by the people (of the U.S.)," not by anybody who manages to slip across our border and obtains the voter I.D. (drivers license, etc.).

Thus, the Democrat Party is doing more to corrupt our election process than any "Russian interference," real or imagined.

Citizenship has no value if we allow non-citizens to vote.
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Old 03-12-2018, 02:13 PM
 
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Despite scant evidence, the Democrats still claim that Hillary lost because of "Russian interference" in our elections. This has been their mantra ever since Donald Trump won, and they accuse him of "colluding" with the Russians in order to win.

In California, Gov. Brown has made it possible for non-citizens to vote by issuing drivers licenses to illegal aliens, which is all that is necessary for them to register to vote. This also goes for any other non-citizens, even if they are here legally.

Other Democrat states as well are passing, or considering passing legislation that would allow non-citizens to vote, in direct violation of the Constitution.

How is this not interfering with our electoral process, far more than the alleged "Russian interference?"

The answer should be obvious.

Non citizens should not be choosing our government for us. "We the People" refers to U.S. citizens, and our government is supposed to be "by the people (of the U.S.)," not by anybody who manages to slip across our border and obtains the voter I.D. (drivers license, etc.).

Thus, the Democrat Party is doing more to corrupt our election process than any "Russian interference," real or imagined.

Citizenship has no value if we allow non-citizens to vote.
How many times does this have to be debunked? Licenses issued to illegals in California are different than those used for citizens to vote. First of all, there’s a different code on the licenses of illegals that separate them from drivers who are legal voters. Secondly, there is a list generated by DMV of legal voters by that’s sent to the board of elections as a cross check. These licenses cannot be used to vote, no matter how many times the same lies are spread on the same nut job websites. Even the Weekly Standard has called it a total lie.

Has anyone else noticed that when a poster resorts to using “We the People” in their text, it’s almost invariably a crackpot?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ca...tor-voter-act/

No, California didn

http://www.weeklystandard.com/fact-c...rticle/2011267

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Old 03-12-2018, 03:59 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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How many times does this have to be debunked? Licenses issued to illegals in California are different than those used for citizens to vote. First of all, there’s a different code on the licenses of illegals that separate them from drivers who are legal voters. Secondly, there is a list generated by DMV of legal voters by that’s sent to the board of elections as a cross check. These licenses cannot be used to vote, no matter how many times the same lies are spread on the same nut job websites. Even the Weekly Standard has called it a total lie.

Has anyone else noticed that when a poster resorts to using “We the People” in their text, it’s almost invariably a crackpot?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ca...tor-voter-act/

No, California didn

Fact Check: Is California Registering Illegal Aliens as Democratic Voters? | The Weekly Standard
Snopes is not a credible source for "fact checking" anything. Someone ought to "fact check" Snopes!

I lived in San Diego for 30 years. I know what a California license looks like, and there are not different licenses for different classes of people. All that's required for a person applying for a license is for them to check a box that they are a U.S. citizen. There is no verification.

Voter lists are not kept up to date. Everybody knows that. That's not just in California; it's everywhere. That's how it's possible for "dead people" to vote. These lists are NOT checked, as you claim. If they were, there wouldn't be any voter fraud, but we know there is.

I didn't get this from any Website. I listen to people like Jerry Brown and other politicians who are defending the illegals, and they do believe that these illegals have a right to vote, and they intend to make sure they can. That's a fact, jack!
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Old 03-12-2018, 04:05 PM
 
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Snopes is not a credible source for "fact checking" anything. Someone ought to "fact check" Snopes!

I lived in San Diego for 30 years. I know what a California license looks like, and there are not different licenses for different classes of people. All that's required for a person applying for a license is for them to check a box that they are a U.S. citizen. There is no verification.

Voter lists are not kept up to date. Everybody knows that. That's not just in California; it's everywhere. That's how it's possible for "dead people" to vote. These lists are NOT checked, as you claim. If they were, there wouldn't be any voter fraud, but we know there is.

I didn't get this from any Website. I listen to people like Jerry Brown and other politicians who are defending the illegals, and they do believe that these illegals have a right to vote, and they intend to make sure they can. That's a fact, jack!
Horse****

Like most of your posts.
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Old 03-12-2018, 04:24 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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First topic on this video discusses this issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6ZXllW4d5M

Obama encouraged illegals to vote, saying nobody would bother to check.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTj1ecLm27A

If you think illegals aren't voting, you're delusional, and the Democrats are doing everything they can to ensure they do vote.
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Old 03-12-2018, 04:34 PM
 
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Horse****

Like most of your posts.
Yeah, and so are your posts.
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Old 03-12-2018, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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First topic on this video discusses this issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6ZXllW4d5M

Obama encouraged illegals to vote, saying nobody would bother to check.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTj1ecLm27A

If you think illegals aren't voting, you're delusional, and the Democrats are doing everything they can to ensure they do vote.
That is not what he said, you and I both know it.
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Old 03-12-2018, 05:21 PM
 
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Yeah, and so are your posts.
Mine are generally backed up by facts, not cultist beliefs, whereas yours are either based on you tube, obscure websites, or just a product of your vivid imagination.
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Old 03-12-2018, 05:49 PM
 
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Wasn't there a report recently about PA illegals voting? Something like 100,000, often multiple times even after they've been warned. The problem is law enforcement doesn't ENFORCE THE LAW. Make visible examples of them by deporting and the voting will stop.

Now, about the dead voting...
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Old 03-12-2018, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Wasn't there a report recently about PA illegals voting? Something like 100,000, often multiple times even after they've been warned. The problem is law enforcement doesn't ENFORCE THE LAW. Make visible examples of them by deporting and the voting will stop.

Now, about the dead voting...
Umm, no there wasn't....
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