dont pop champange yet democrats (voting, Republican, Clinton, Americans)
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Al was a fluke, it had more to do with voting against a candidate and not leaning anywhere near left or away from the GOP:
TX has a long way to go before they will vote Dem for president and if you think AZ is purple or even leaning, you have another thought coming. That is almost like saying CA could, under the right circumstance go red. Some of the other states you mentioned could go either way and I am sure the GOP knows this.
Ok I'll concede i shouldn't have added Alabama to that list, it was a fluke victory and I would be shocked if jones gets elected to a full term in 2020.
But California, hey Arnold was a Republican (very centrist but still had a "R" next his his name) and he won..twice..comfortably. On "the books" California had a republican govenor so yes under the right set of circumstances, like Doug Jones anything could happen. Remember Obama on a massive fluke won Indiana in 2008. If you look at the County by county Map of Texas in 2016 the Dallas, Houston and San Antonio area were all Blue. You are right Dems have a long way. I have no delusions of a statewide Dem victory in 2018 or even 2020 but 2024, 2028 the GOP might not coast to victory like they are used to. In fact Hillary came closer to winning Texas than any democrat in a generation like 8 percent or so. Same with AZ, 10 years ago they had a 2-term democrat governor (Janet Napolitano), Clinton did win it in 1996, Fluke barely was elected in 2012. the right candidates with the right message not linked to the Pelosi bubble could bring an upset victory.
I always said a significant chunk of Trump votes were people who voted AGAINST Hillary not FOR Trump.
Now while I prefer democrats to republicans I am not entirely ready to pop champagne of a blue wave just yet. Democrats need to stop worrying about wedge issues that 5% of the population loves but its a bridge too far for 50% of the population.
Let me put it this way.
I believe Trans-rights are human rights and the bathroom issues doesn;t bother me, I'd rather use bathroom and leave than check the "equipment" of the person in the next stall. However a brief story, where I live there has been studies/speculation that show chemicals in the drinking water that have been linked to breast cancer..4 woman on the same block had it within a 6 month period of each other. With an EPA that seems to reject/not care about issues like there my vote is more towards preventing my mother, mother-in-law, sister, wife or daughter getting breast cancer (or any cancer for that matter) by a little oversight to make sure our drinking water is not poisoned. But when push comes to shove the Dems would rather prop up the candidate that talks about transgender bathrooms. If god forbid I have to sit with a loved one through chemo I would be like a lunatic knowing this could've been prevented if clean water was a bigger issue than the chick who was a dude taking a leak
I own no guns but I have fired guns before and favor the 2nd amendment (its just not my top priority), I have never hunted not due to objections just due to unable to find the time but I have several friends who are avid hunters. and they have given me good deer meat and fresh turkey jerky. Funny thing about these guys, all except 1 (out of roughly a dozen) feel AR-15's and sub-machine guns belong with either military personal or SWAT team or something similar. They are WILLING TO LISTEN to sensible gun reform. We are all parents and the last thing we need is a psycho with one of these guns near our children..however the democrats are masters taking a conversation about gun reform and turning into gun abolition (or at minimum not pushing back enough when the gun lobby state such things) and while I feel adequate in my manhood and don't need an arsenal law-abiding guns owners should not be punished but the democrats seem to ignore that part.
I am from outside NYC...I am a city-boy to my core, but just like I have no use for an evangelical preacher from rural wherever trying to legislate morality (ironically in the name of small government) these rural folks don't want us city people telling them the farm boy should be more like the hipster.
I have always maintained people wrote of Bill Clinton, W. Bush, and Obama as flukes who would never be reelected but they were. (I know, i know any day now the proof of voter fraud will be revealed) I think at this rate in 2020 the Democrats will be in the best position to bump off an incumbent president since 1932 but they need to look towards the purple in the map, if they plan on winning they should look at the narrow trump victories ( MI, WI and PA) the trending purple areas (GA, AZ, NC) the swingy (FL, OH, IA) and a few additional resources to the long shots with changing demographics to show they care (TX, TN, even Bama after that special election) instead of being dictated by the +34 D district of Nancy Pelosi because if they do that Trump will be the 4th name on the list of a fluke who got reelected.
As a democrat, there is much truth in what you say.
I think democrats need to do three or four things to clearly win this midterm election:
1. Make it clear that our system of checks and balances requires a check on an erratic President who cannot be trusted in terms of complicated foreign policy issues, ethics and healthcare. We need a democrat majority in the House to keep an eye on Trump and keep the worst conservative ideas from becoming law.
2. The democrats are more responsible for the current good economy than republicans are. Right now, they are claiming credit based on one year's work for something that took the former President a full eight years to accomplish. Its not hard to see through it. Changing regulations and lowering tax rates for corporations didn't produce a good economy. It was eight years of difficult thankless reform and budgeting that got us where we are now.
3. A democratic Congress is needed because the GOP does not mean well for the average American. Whether it comes to the environment, reasonable gun restrictions, or protecting our electoral process from Russia or other foreign countries, republicans have shown they are not up to the job.
4. The ethics of the current administration are unacceptable. The Mueller Investigation needs to continue--unimpeded. Electing a democrat Congress will best guarantee that result.
Democrats are screwed because Trump is denuking North Korea and forcing China to lower tariffs.
There has never been a more powerful President/person than this guy.
Democrats are screwed because Trump is denuking North Korea and forcing China to lower tariffs.
There has never been a more powerful President/person than this guy.
I don't trust north Korea as far as I can throw a tractor trailer...I do hope hes successful but I am VERY skeptical...north Korea has pulled this b.s. before.
What tariffs has China lowered? I understand that is the end game but at this moment in time they are raising them (specifically targeting "Trump Country ")
More powerful President? Subjective at best...I think W. Had too much power...a little over 2 years ago the GOP claimed Obama had too much power. Lincoln suspended Habieus Corpus for crying out loud and FDR put people into camps...since you said never yes going that far back is fair game
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Democrats do not win because Democrats do not vote. Except in Ca.
It would be nice if all those who push the illegal voting crap could come up some proof. IMO, that is just a fund raising tool.
True enough. Democrats have always turned out more in presidential years than off-year elections. But Trump has motivated them like no other president has, so I expect 2018 will not be typical.
The more interesting thing to me will be seeing how motivated the Republicans are. Make no mistake; this election is a referendum on the Trump presidency.
Every move Trump makes from now until November will affect his party and the election outcome in some way.
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