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Old 04-14-2018, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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That's a lot of dots to connect. But once a circle closes in any of those connections, Trump will likely be caught in the middle of the circle.

That is, if any of the connected dots do close into a circle. Trump has long experience with muddying the waters wherever he swims; it's a good way of self-protection, and he has a lifetime's worth of toadies and underlings who do almost all of his bag work.
It ways, it's like the old Mafia. The lower guys take the fall for the big guy at the top, but until now, there has never been anything that Trump has done that was a clear and present danger to the nation's security before.

The greater crime, as it was in Watergate, could possibly be the cover-up than the crime itself. That depends on what Mueller learns or fails to learn, I expect.
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Old 04-14-2018, 09:35 PM
 
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The greater crime, as it was in Watergate, could possibly be the cover-up than the crime itself. That depends on what Mueller learns or fails to learn, I expect.
Exactly. And unlike Watergate, the cover-up just might extend into the halls of Congress. Suspect No. 1 being Devin Nunes -- he ran the "investigation committee" as a full-blown obstruction operation and undermined Mueller in every way possible.
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Old 04-14-2018, 09:41 PM
 
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What if the sky turns green?
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Old 04-14-2018, 09:42 PM
 
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The GOP holds all the power. They are perfectly positioned to charge Hillary and throw her in jail, and they can do it RIGHT NOW. If they have irrefutable evidence that she's guilty, WHY HAVEN'T THEY?

You won't answer, because even you know the answer. There is no crime. If there was, she'd have been charged by now.
True.

The question was put to Jeff Sessions when he appeared before congress and he said as much at the time, in plain English.
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The most memorable exchange of the day came when Sessions told a testy Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), a leading voice among House conservatives, that it would take “a factual basis that meets the standard of a special counsel” for the Justice Department to appoint a special prosecutor.

“We will use the proper standards and that’s the only thing I can tell you, Mr. Jordan,” Sessions said. “You can have your idea, but sometimes we have to study what the facts are and to evaluate whether it meets the standards it requires.”

THE HILL
Sessions knows that the Uranium One accusations are a hoax.
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Old 04-14-2018, 09:45 PM
 
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What if the sky turns green?
It does, sometimes.
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Old 04-14-2018, 09:54 PM
 
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Exactly. And unlike Watergate, the cover-up just might extend into the halls of Congress. Suspect No. 1 being Devin Nunes -- he ran the "investigation committee" as a full-blown obstruction operation and undermined Mueller in every way possible.
Yes--my thoughts exactly
I have thought for some time that Nunes obsessive behavior on his committee to do anything to excuse Trump, protect Carter Page (a Russian plant if there ever was one), and really cross the border of obstruction of justice with his own acts was about self-preservation
This guy is an ag major--he is not a brainiac
So likely he is caught in something illegal himself
And Russian money in the campaign seems the likeliest mistake
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Old 04-14-2018, 10:07 PM
 
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as our former president said "the election can't be hacked, you're just losing"
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Old 04-15-2018, 04:30 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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They have been investigating that for well over a year, not a shred of evidence. When are they gonna bring up Hillary's charges for selling uranium and colluding with Russia?

What an idiotic claim! They don't get indictments,warrants and subpoena's without evidence!
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Old 04-15-2018, 07:37 AM
 
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as our former president said "the election can't be hacked, you're just losing"
Attribution please???
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Old 04-15-2018, 08:10 AM
 
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I feel sorry for the suckers who have fallen for this false narrative of Trump colluding with Russia when there isn't a shred of evidence. How do they feel about Hillary colluding with Russia? Facts are there on a silver platter for all to see. Two-tier justice system.

By the way, it's irrelevant because collusion isn't a crime.
Trump has obviously surrounded himself with criminals, and he himself has been sued endlessly long before he became president. While that doesn't necessarily mean he colluded, it does indicate that he is far from being above suspicion, and that there is no logical reason that he should be afforded benefit of the doubt on this. The investigation is not concluded, and the longer it goes, the worse it gets for Trump. That should make any Trump supporter nervous, and it obviously does given how often they use whataboutisms and deflections. The fact that you think a candidate working with a foreign nation to undermine the American system is totally fine says a lot about your patriotism, though, or should we say, how it is nonexistent.
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