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I don't think the Democrats have a chance in 2020. Donald Trump has Putin in has pockets and Putin will throw the 2020 election like he did the 2016 election!
Except that, unlike in 2016, people in 2020 will know exactly what another 4 years of Trump would be like if he were to win again.
As long as Hillary doesn’t come back, there’s no way Trump will win in 2020.
He grew up in a dairy-farming family, but one with an entrepreneurial exposure; he understands the fine art of appealing to the markets (his family business sold retail) but also the art of valuing and compensating those on the lower rungs of the occupational ladder.
He's been exposed to the philanthropic and non-profit sectors of the economy for years, as the parent of a disabled child.
He has previous public-sector experience (He probably doesn't have exposure to all the pitfalls and insecurities of urbanized, post-industrial life, but that tends to fall into place).
And interestingly, he does not appear to have a full four-year undergraduate degree -- let alone one from the upper-tier private colleges.
It remains to be seen whether he can be elected in a predominately-white-and-rural, classic "Blue Dog" district, but even if so, he will undoubtedly have to deal with the coalition of aging radicals, big-city grafters, and alienated academic dreamers who began hijacking the party of his roots some fifty years ago.
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He grew up in a dairy-farming family, but one with an entrepreneurial exposure; he understands the fine art of appealing to the markets (his family business sold retail) but also the art of valuing and compensating those on the lower rungs of the occupational ladder.
He's been exposed to the philanthropic and non-profit sectors of the economy for years, as the parent of a disabled child.
He has previous public-sector experience (He probably doesn't have exposure to all the pitfalls and insecurities of urbanized, post-industrial life, but that tends to fall into place).
And interestingly, he does not appear to have a full four-year undergraduate degree -- let alone one from the upper-tier private colleges.
It remains to be seen whether he can be elected in a predominately-white-and-rural, classic "Blue Dog" district, but even if so, he will undoubtedly have to deal with the coalition of aging radicals, big-city grafters, and alienated academic dreamers who began hijacking the party of his roots some fifty years ago.
He's definitely interesting. If his yard/street signs are any indication, he'll at least win his hometown. Rte. 42/442 between Bloom and Muncy is plastered, lol. I'm undecided, but that I'm considering him is a pretty big deal.
If you are a Democrat, who do you think is that fresh face or if you don't have anyone specific in mind at this time, from what group of people (some liberal/progressive organization, some profession, some region of the country, some identity group based on race/gender, something else), should that fresh face person come? You know, in your opinion, where should the party start looking for this fresh face?
There are no wrong answers. I'm just curious if a lot of CD Democrats are on the same page as each other and what that is or if there isn't a consensus on this fresh face issue.
I would love to see a fresh face. Amy Klobuchar, Kamala Harris, Joaquin Castro (probably too young and inexperienced right now) and Kirstin Gillibrand all come to mind, but I'm sure there are others.
In my opinion, Biden, Clinton and Sanders are too old and Elizabeth Warren isn't very likeable. Plus I think she's doing a good job in the Senate.
I'll go as far as saying that if the Democrats don't run a fresh face, Trump will win again in 2020.
Fresh face means someone they created and control completely and will ram through the convention just like Obama. My guess is Corey Booker.
You're wrong.
"Fresh face" means someone who has never run for President before. And just who are those "they" you mentioned?
As to whom that fresh face may be is anyone's guess at the moment. From my own observations, I can't say who it could be, but here are some possibilities:
It's more likely the person will come from state politics rather than national politics, will be young (45-50), could be female, from a minority, and the working class, and will be a fiscal conservative and a social populist.
I expect the candidate will be someone who is completely outside the national party, will be a Washington outsider, and may be from a traditionally red state, quite possibly from one of the western states.
I think it's doubtful a stone beginner who has never run for any office before will be nominated, but the candidate will have some local/regional/state experience in a legislature, county commissioner, or city council.
Basically, the Democrats will follow the same pattern that the Republicans adopted before them.
Clinton was the last legacy candidate we will be seeing for some time- a candidate who had been a party functionary for a long time, missed their best shot at the nomination, and then was awarded another shot as a sort of consolation prize.
Mitt Romney was the last legacy GOP candidate, and before him, John McCaine. Both are from the baby boomers, as was Hillary, and Trump.
Obama was nowhere as much a party outsider as Trump or Bush. Obama and Bush both built a lot of state office experience before running nationally as outsiders, but Obama was a sitting Senator when he decided to run, while Bush was a recent former Governor.
Neither was from the east. One was from the west, and the other from the mid-west. None of the last 3 Presidents have been Washington insiders.
Trump is the baby boomer's last hurrah as the leading political force. The next Democratic candidate will be from Gen X. The same could be true for the Republican party in 2020 as well.
The voters in both parties are looking for fresh faces. They have been, ever since the turn of the century, and are more willing to take the risk of someone who's unknown than someone who's currently prominent in Washington.
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