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Old 07-31-2018, 06:32 PM
 
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There is no path to 270 electoral votes without middle America. That is a mathematical fact. And your side’s post-election behavior is only alienating this voting segment even more.

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Old 07-31-2018, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Florida & Cebu, Philippines
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From the latest Quinnipiac Poll on Donald Trump’s Job Approval

Haven't you and others learned from the election polls, that polls do not count. With all the hatred from the left toward anyone who does not think like them, do you and other really expect Trump supporters to put themselves out there so those on the left can attack them.
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Old 07-31-2018, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Haven't you and others learned from the election polls, that polls do not count. With all the hatred from the left toward anyone who does not think like them, do you and other really expect Trump supporters to put themselves out there so those on the left can attack them.
So why are you so defensive if you're right?
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Old 07-31-2018, 08:40 PM
 
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Haven't you and others learned from the election polls, that polls do not count. With all the hatred from the left toward anyone who does not think like them, do you and other really expect Trump supporters to put themselves out there so those on the left can attack them.
Let me get this straight.

Trump supporters are afraid of being attacked or ridiculed in public by big, bad liberals, so they stay under the radar by not revealing what they really think? Therefore all polls are off because they don’t count the “shy Trump voter”?

Is that it??

If so, I have two questions.

1. Do you really believe that load of crap?

2. If it’s true, why is it that Trumpists are always calling the left wimps and snowflakes when the cowards are on your side?
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:04 PM
 
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2016 polls in the Rust Belt states showed Clinton winning right until the end.

Hence, they missed a significant chunk of Trump voters, then.

Polls more often than not underestimate GOP support, as most focus on total voter pop, vs likely voter pop, and even when they do likely, many statistically underrepresent the proportion of conservs in their polling data.
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:13 AM
 
Location: Florida & Cebu, Philippines
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Let me get this straight.

Trump supporters are afraid of being attacked or ridiculed in public by big, bad liberals, so they stay under the radar by not revealing what they really think? Therefore all polls are off because they don’t count the “shy Trump voter”?

Is that it??

If so, I have two questions.

1. Do you really believe that load of crap?

2. If it’s true, why is it that Trumpists are always calling the left wimps and snowflakes when the cowards are on your side?
Friends of mine have had their cars damaged because of them having either Trump or police stickers on them and houses have been vandalized for having vote Trump signs outside, thus those people and others who know them or hear about it, no longer have either and no longer tell anyone who they would vote for.

Also I and other independents I know have gotten phone calls from polling places asking questions, I hang up on them and believe me it is not because I am afraid of anything, I just do not feel the need to tell anyone my business, so in answer to your questions, likely it is not because most are afraid of anything except they/we do not wish to be a target of the childish mentally ill behavior that many liberals nowadays display all the time, including continually insulting those who do not agree with them.
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:35 AM
 
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Florida is always the key, and its looking good for Republicans-
House Republican DeSantis has 11.0% lead in Florida according to RealClearPolitics.
Senate Republican Scott has 1.2% lead in Florida according to RealClearPolitics.
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Old 08-01-2018, 03:04 AM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Attacking Trump seems to harden his base, not divide it. Democrats need to appeal to the issues of angry old white men, without attacking him, and offering concrete policies to address their declining status and health issues.
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Old 08-01-2018, 03:04 AM
 
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they/we do not wish to be a target of the childish mentally ill behavior that many liberals nowadays display all the time, including continually insulting those who do not agree with them.
BINGO.


And, in November, our voting power voices will be heard. Just as we were in 2016.
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Old 08-01-2018, 05:32 AM
 
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Trump will energize his base if he tells them that "I'll be impeached if you don't vote".
They'll vote as eagerly as 2016 if they consider that.
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