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Old 08-14-2018, 10:26 AM
 
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Daily Kos has released a spreadsheet that tracks the vote in Presidential Eelctions from 1980 through 2016 by media market. In addition to seeing how the raw vote changes through the year per media market, you can break down the media market by state for those markets that cross state lines and compare the change of a media market’s PVI (Partisan Voter Index) over time.

For lovers of data, it’s pretty interesting. In general, the primary media markets have been growing more Democratic, while the secondary media markets are growing more Republican. The data reflects changes in the voting patterns of entire media markets rather than just the core counties. For example, while Allegheny County, Pennsylvania (Pittsburgh) remains Democratic, the Pittsburgh media market has gone from D+7 in 1980 to R +6 in 2016.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...rent-elections


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...htmlview#gid=0

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Old 08-14-2018, 02:10 PM
 
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Daily Kos has released a spreadsheet that tracks the vote in Presidential Eelctions from 1980 through 2016 by media market. In addition to seeing how the raw vote changes through the year per media market, you can break down the media market by state for those markets that cross state lines and compare the change of a media market’s PVI (Partisan Voter Index) over time.

For lovers of data, it’s pretty interesting. In general, the primary media markets have been growing more Democratic, while the secondary media markets are growing more Republican. The data reflects changes in the voting patterns of entire media markets rather than just the core counties. For example, while Allegheny County, Pennsylvania (Pittsburgh) remains Democratic, the Pittsburgh media market has gone from D+7 in 1980 to R +6 in 2016.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...rent-elections


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...htmlview#gid=0
good stuff
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Old 08-14-2018, 06:53 PM
 
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More Identity Politics from the Daily Kaos.

They still can't figure out why the Democrat party is at a state of powerless not seen for 100 years. According to them, we should all be Democrat now.
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Old 08-15-2018, 07:11 AM
 
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Numbers are numbers no matter whom collects them. Data is not liberal or conservative. It’s just data.
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Old 08-15-2018, 08:05 AM
 
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More Identity Politics from the Daily Kaos.

They still can't figure out why the Democrat party is at a state of powerless not seen for 100 years. According to them, we should all be Democrat now.
If the Democratic Party ever loses its stranglehold on the Black community almost monolithic vote they will be in serious trouble. The article is right, they are suffering from “death by a 1000 cuts” and all it will take is for one of their major demographic groups to turn off and they will bleed out. Hillary's defeat can be partially attributed to black voters being unenthusiastic about her. They hadn’t forgot what she said about Obama in 2008.
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Old 08-15-2018, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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If the Democratic Party ever loses its stranglehold on the Black community they will be in serious trouble. The article is right, they are suffering from “death by a 1000 cuts”.

Thats not what the article is saying at all as Democrats and republicans have remained pretty much even in percentage of new voter registration.

The problem for Democrats is where those new voters are. They are mostly in areas already deep blue, like Los Angeles , or turning blue, like Metro Atlanta.

This results in Dems being packed in Major city congressional and state legislature districts and republicans drawing the new maps.
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Old 08-15-2018, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Hillary's defeat can be partially attributed to black voters being unenthusiastic about her. They hadn’t forgot what she said about Obama in 2008.
That isnt true



13% of 131 million is 17.03 million(16.17 Obama black voters)
13% of 129 million is 16.77 million (15.59 Obama black voters)
12% of 136 million is 17.8 million (15.66 Clinton Black voters)
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Old 08-15-2018, 11:49 AM
 
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Thats not what the article is saying at all as Democrats and republicans have remained pretty much even in percentage of new voter registration.

The problem for Democrats is where those new voters are. They are mostly in areas already deep blue, like Los Angeles , or turning blue, like Metro Atlanta.

This results in Dems being packed in Major city congressional and state legislature districts and republicans drawing the new maps.

Exactly. Give or take the Democratic Party being the cities and nearby suburbs. Republican Party being the rural and exurbs.
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Old 08-15-2018, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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If the Democratic Party ever loses its stranglehold on the Black community almost monolithic vote they will be in serious trouble. The article is right, they are suffering from “death by a 1000 cuts” and all it will take is for one of their major demographic groups to turn off and they will bleed out. Hillary's defeat can be partially attributed to black voters being unenthusiastic about her. They hadn’t forgot what she said about Obama in 2008.
That's not true


2008 election - 13% of 131 million is 17.03 million(16.17 Obama black voters)
2012 election - 13% of 129 million is 16.77 million (15.59 Obama black voters)
2016 election - 12% of 136 million is 17.8 million (15.66 Clinton Black voters)

Clinton gained about 700,000 votes on Obama from 2012 to 2016, that outpaced the percentage of new eligible voters comparatively

the problem is those new black voters were in Dallas, Austin, Atlanta, NYC and Los Angeles

instead of Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, and Detroit.



Update: needed to clarify so people understood what these numbers meant
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