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Old 09-10-2018, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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https://theintercept.com/2018/08/18/...setts-primary/

Capuano was one of the few left wing politicians in congress (he sued Obama over the Libya war, supported single payer before anyone else, etc.)

And then these identity politics far right warriors who hate socialism and anti-imperialism kicked him out in favor of a Hillary supporter who want to protect the established powers (she was back by big money corporations).

Ayanna symbolizes this progressive movement, it's millennials pushing this country further to the right and using identity politics to protect raytheon and other corporate powers.

These people are no Eugene Debbs.
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Old 09-10-2018, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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She is a far left loon.
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Old 09-11-2018, 12:59 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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She is a far left loon.
What is far left about her ?
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Old 09-11-2018, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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She is a far left loon.
Did you read the article?

She is to the right of her opponent on every issue. She is another corporate establishment war hawk who finds nuance in US imperialism.
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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What is far left about her ?
She supports single payer, wants to abolish ICE, backs the now-rescinded Title IX sexual assault guidance issued by Obama that was rife with so many due process concerns that its not funny, wants to greatly limit/hinder the ability of citizens to exercise their rights under the 2nd Amendment, etc. Additionally, she said she would have voted against the so-called "Blue Lives Matters" bill in Congress which would have included up to a ten year sentence for one who assaults a police officer (she had no principled constitutional concerns about the bill . . . it was pure racial politics which led her to be against the bill).

https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/0...em-in-primary/

https://www.boston.com/news/politics...cy-differences

https://votesmart.org/candidate/1227...y#.W5fnj2hKjrc

Additionally, her rhetoric against POTUS is a sign of more loonishness to come.
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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She supports single payer, wants to abolish ICE, backs the now-rescinded Title IX sexual assault guidance issued by Obama that was rife with so many due process concerns that its not funny, wants to greatly limit/hinder the ability of citizens to exercise their rights under the 2nd Amendment, etc. Additionally, she said she would have voted against the so-called "Blue Lives Matters" bill in Congress which would have included up to a ten year sentence for one who assaults a police officer (she had no principled constitutional concerns about the bill . . . it was pure racial politics which led her to be against the bill).

https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/0...em-in-primary/

https://www.boston.com/news/politics...cy-differences

https://votesmart.org/candidate/1227...y#.W5fnj2hKjrc

Additionally, her rhetoric against POTUS is a sign of more loonishness to come.
So she is an Obama democrat, using social issues to defend her far right positions on military and corporate policies.

That is why the big money interests helped out the sitting progressive congressman in favor of her far right BS.
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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She supports single payer, wants to abolish ICE, backs the now-rescinded Title IX sexual assault guidance issued by Obama that was rife with so many due process concerns that its not funny, wants to greatly limit/hinder the ability of citizens to exercise their rights under the 2nd Amendment, etc. Additionally, she said she would have voted against the so-called "Blue Lives Matters" bill in Congress which would have included up to a ten year sentence for one who assaults a police officer (she had no principled constitutional concerns about the bill . . . it was pure racial politics which led her to be against the bill).

https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/0...em-in-primary/

https://www.boston.com/news/politics...cy-differences

https://votesmart.org/candidate/1227...y#.W5fnj2hKjrc

Additionally, her rhetoric against POTUS is a sign of more loonishness to come.
what exactly is far left about single payer ?

And she does not advocate for abolishing ICE, she supports returning it to pre 9/11 INS, before it became part of Homeland . Something I would think most conservatives would actually support .

As far as I can tell , there is no mention of infringing on anyone's second amendment rights .

Conservatives talk about title 9, but never actually say what they disagree with.

And good for her for saying she would vote against the blue lives matters bill. Again, if you are a conservative, you should be with her on that. Being an officer doesn't give you a greater right to life or respect than anyone else , especially if you argue there shouldn't be hate crime statutes .
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Old 09-11-2018, 11:58 AM
 
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what exactly is far left about single payer ?

And she does not advocate for abolishing ICE, she supports returning it to pre 9/11 INS, before it became part of Homeland . Something I would think most conservatives would actually support .

As far as I can tell , there is no mention of infringing on anyone's second amendment rights .

Conservatives talk about title 9, but never actually say what they disagree with.

And good for her for saying she would vote against the blue lives matters bill. Again, if you are a conservative, you should be with her on that. Being an officer doesn't give you a greater right to life or respect than anyone else , especially if you argue there shouldn't be hate crime statutes .
Regardless of the merits of single payer it's usually something supported by the left and far left.

And she supports effectively getting rid of the ICE immigration enforcement arm in addition to radically changing (code loosening) enforcement. That's not something most conservatives support.

Not only does she support the anti gun legislation on the books in Massachusetts and Boston which greatly limit the ability to own and carry (in Boston more so than Massachusetts as a whole), she wants to introduce greater restrictions on firearm ownership at the federal level as explained in the policy link I provided.

And the title IX sexual assault policy for dealing with sexual assault issues turned due process on its head in many ways. The Obama era requirements manadated a preponderance of the evidence standard as opposed to the clear and convincing standard most had previously; had guidelines that were against the ability to direct confront your accuser (many schools including my own adopted such a policy as they felt the had to); required that both parties have the right to appeal an adverse decision; etc. This is all actually pretty well documented. Note a federal appeals court has also ruled that the Obama era guidelines under title IX violated basic principles of due process and fairness for the accused. I'm on my phone but don't have a problem posting supporting links later. But like I wrote this is all pretty well documented.

I love how you write about what conservatives should and should not support. The fact that we don't support these things should tell you something. It is noble to protect those who willingly put their lives on the line to protect and serve with such legislation, which will hopefully make criminals think twice.

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Old 09-11-2018, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Regardless of the merits of single payer it's usually something supported by the left and far left.

And she supports effectively getting rid of the ICE immigration enforcement arm in addition to radically changing (code loosening) enforcement. That's not something most conservatives support.

Not only does she support the anti gun legislation on the books in Massachusetts and Boston which greatly limit the ability to own and carry (in Boston more so than Massachusetts as a whole), she wants to introduce greater restrictions on firearm ownership at the federal level as explained in the policy link I provided.

And the title IX sexual assault policy for dealing with sexual assault issues turned due process on its head in many ways. The Obama era requirements manadated a preponderance of the evidence standard as opposed to the clear and convincing standard most had previously; had guidelines that were against the ability to direct confront your accuser (many schools including my own adopted such a policy as they felt the had to); required that both parties have the right to appeal an adverse decision; etc. This is all actually pretty well documented. Note a federal appeals court has also ruled that the Obama era guidelines under title IX violated basic principles of due process and fairness for the accused. I'm on my phone but don't have a problem posting supporting links later. But like I wrote this is all pretty well documented.

I love how you write about what conservatives should and should not support. The fact that we don't support these things should tell you something. It is noble to protect those who willingly put their lives on the line to protect and serve with such legislation, which will hopefully make criminals think twice.
Single payer isn't far left wing, you aren't even arguing against it's merits either , although, I guess you didn't call it radical so, you get a point there lol.

Returning ICE to it pre 9/11 level is no different than Libertarian leaning Republicans like Been Sasse, Thomas Massie, Kevin Yoder, and Rand Paul saying they want the TSA to be dismantled and reabsorbed into the NTSB and FAA. If you don't have a problem with one, you shouldn't have a problem with the other. No one says they want hijackers to have an eaiser time getting onto planes.

The title 9 argument is one I have become more acquianted with and that is why I disagree with you, some school have stupidly added their own rules. No where in the Obama guidelines does it actually say accusers can't be cross examined or anything like that. Even the Breitbart article admits that when duliscussing the Universities of Michigan and Cinncinatti cases ( which I assume is the basis if your argument)

Living in the deep South, you have to learn the views of the other side if you want to be a liberal and affectivly argue your points .

The fact that you guys aren't consistent indeed tells me a lot .

As for your Blue lives argument, simply answer this, do you support hate crimes legislation ?
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Old 09-11-2018, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Central Washington
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what exactly is far left about single payer ?

And she does not advocate for abolishing ICE, she supports returning it to pre 9/11 INS, before it became part of Homeland . Something I would think most conservatives would actually support .

As far as I can tell , there is no mention of infringing on anyone's second amendment rights .

Conservatives talk about title 9, but never actually say what they disagree with.

And good for her for saying she would vote against the blue lives matters bill. Again, if you are a conservative, you should be with her on that. Being an officer doesn't give you a greater right to life or respect than anyone else , especially if you argue there shouldn't be hate crime statutes .
You might want to tell her that.

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