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Old 11-12-2018, 03:24 PM
 
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You forgot white, male, straight.

Uh, what part of "men" don't you understand? Don't care about race or sexual orientation. Neither should you.
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Negative, would require a constitutional amendment. Non-starter.

The 26th Amendment was ratified in 1971. It most certainly could be changed, IF enough citizens wanted it done.
But, since you say it is a "non-starter", full rights of adulthood should be guaranteed to 18 year olds, including the right to purchase and own weapons.
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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The 26th Amendment was ratified in 1971. It most certainly could be changed, IF enough citizens wanted it done.
But, since you say it is a "non-starter", full rights of adulthood should be guaranteed to 18 year olds, including the right to purchase and own weapons.
Fine with me.

I'd like to see greater reasonable restrictions on the purchase of weapons such as proving you are mentally competent, but I don't see age as a reason to disqualify otherwise competent people.
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Old 11-12-2018, 04:08 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This whole everyone votes thing obviously isn't working. What should be the qualifications to receive a ballot?
Just like it was established from the beginning.... FOR A REASON.
Only Citizens that own Land.
If you own land in several states on many counties, you would be able to vote in each on the level in which the vote was taken.
The vote for all levels of government would not be on the same day.
Local County ballots could be mail in as they know where you live, and owning property in several counties.
Same with State Ballots. Or directly at the poll.

But for the US President, every citizen gets a vote. At polling places 1 day only to verify ID, they are a citizen of that state. No way to vote in other states unless border hopping occurs and twin ID's.
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Old 11-12-2018, 04:13 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The 26th Amendment was ratified in 1971. It most certainly could be changed, IF enough citizens wanted it done.
But, since you say it is a "non-starter", full rights of adulthood should be guaranteed to 18 year olds, including the right to purchase and own weapons.
No superficial number can determine mental maturity.
Common Sense is hard to come by in the boundaries of urban America.
A bunch of the "it looks good on paper" types.
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Old 11-12-2018, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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BEFORE the 1820s, those who consented to be governed (subject citizens) descended in status, embracing mandatory civic duties that abrogated endowed rights, as well as being held to a higher standard of behavior (Service was a privilege, and the people could object to servants that were disreputable, repugnant, or otherwise unacceptable).

PREREQUISITES FOR ELECTORS

These civic minded folks had to be
(a) property owners,
(b) tax payers,
(c) obligated to perform militia duty (18-50; currently 17-45), and
(d) held to a higher standard of behavior.

That would exclude all 'recipients' of entitlements (public charity), and the shiftless from participation.

In fact if only 3% of the American people bothered to participate, while the remaining 97% retained their tax exempt endowed rights, it really wouldn't matter who was elected, since they would lack the funds and the power to get into much mischief. And those 3% would not tolerate nonsense in THEIR government being stuck with the bulk of taxes and duties.
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