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Old 02-26-2019, 04:50 PM
 
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Although it's trendy, getting worked up about racism and accusing everyone of being a racist is not a winning strategy for Dems. Sanders and Biden are dominating because they are the least identity politics oriented of all the Dems.
Here's the problem for all of them. The South Carolina Primary.

In South Carolina the Democrat party might as well rename itself the African American party. It's all but been abandoned by White people. 2 out of 3 people who voted in the 2016 Democrat Primary in SC, were Black.
  • This is why Bernie will be beaten badly there.
  • Booker is going to be ruined by the Gay rumors. Though he's Black, this demographic is pretty socially conservative when it comes to this issue.
  • Pocahontas - she'll get some of the White Democrat vote, but I expect this is where her campaign will completely swoon. That is if she makes it even this far. Many many people in SC claim some sort of legitimate blood connection to the various NA tribes there.
  • Biden - Will try to do a Hillary hot sauce thing, but I don't think he can pull it off. Unlike the Clintons, he has no connections to the South.
  • Harris - Media is trying hard to turn her into the Black Hillary. So she might prevail.
  • Beta - The establishment might try to make him the front runner. He's the least offensive of the bunch. In this case, he'll get a showing but SC won't be a big deal for him should he lose it. They will push hard for him elsewhere, and the MSM will pretend that it's his to lose.
South Carolina has an open primary. People there routinely cross the lines to vote in the "Other" primary. Given that Trump is a shoe in, expect lots of Republicans to go and have some fun with this too.
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Old 02-26-2019, 05:09 PM
 
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Old 02-26-2019, 05:46 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I told you. And I know she has something to do with the Smollett thing. Mark my words.
Did Alex Jones tell you that?
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Old 02-26-2019, 07:42 PM
 
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Approval Ratings?

Reagan won 49 of 50 states when he ran for re-election. So much for "approval ratings".

Oh BTW, you immediately discredit yourself with the "Individual 1" nonsense. The Russian meme is dead.

Trump still Winning!

MAGA!
Reagan hit 50%. Should I or anyone care if they are discredited by the extreme right? The supporters who support a lying, bullying, cheating and corrupt mobster. By the way, Individual 1 is still under numerous investigations including Russia. You have no credibility because you claim to discredit about the name given to him by a court of law yet you support a leader that calls folks all kinds of demeaning names on a regular basis. So the discredit from the extreme right doesn't hold any weight. The hypocrisy and nonexistent credibility are accepting it from their leader but not from anyone else.

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Old 02-26-2019, 08:30 PM
 
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Biden and Beta... Two old white men representing the Democratic party of identity politics ... The irony...
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:51 PM
 
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Biden and Beta... Two old white men representing the Democratic party of identity politics ... The irony...
Don't forget Bernie. The Democrat's own 'killer B's'.
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:36 PM
 
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Biden and Beta... Two old white men representing the Democratic party of identity politics ... The irony...
Only one of those men is old.
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:00 AM
 
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Michael Barone observes that the Democrats are going out too far on the left-wing tree limb:

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Democrats Are Getting Out on a Dangerously Left-Wing Limb

Democratic presidential candidates have been going out on potentially shaky left-wing limbs, including the Green New Deal sketched out by the exuberant freshman Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Endorsers include putatively serious candidates such as Sens. Cory Booker, Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris, Amy Klobuchar, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.

The idea is to ban net carbon emissions in just 10 years, which evidently means no gasoline-powered cars, no beef from methane-producing cattle and no passenger airplanes. Obamacare, passed nearly 10 years ago, is no longer enough for Democrats. In his 2016 campaign, Sanders called for "Medicare-for-all," and he and other declared candidates are echoing that this cycle.

Then there is the issue of reparations for descendants of slaves, urged without much visible effect by longtime Rep. John Conyers and author Ta-Nehisi Coates, whose widely praised best-seller argues that America today is just as racist as ever, and always will be. Polls show this unsurprisingly unpopular, but Harris, Warren and fellow candidate Rep. Julian Castro have signed on for "some form" of reparations.

Support for legal abortion has been a Democratic staple for years. But Democrats have recently moved left to pass laws allowing it up to nine months. They did so successfully in New York and unsuccessfully in Virginia, after Gov. Ralph Northam suggested it would apply after birth.

{More at the link}
These positions are flat out radical. If they wanted to be more radical than this, what could they realistically do to become more so? In fact, I would have imagined they never would have gone as far as this. Obama never did, that is for sure, at least not during his campaigns. But now these candidates are going all the way to the wall with these radical extreme hard left positions.

Don't get me wrong, I am delighted to see the Democrats finally coming out publically and admitting who they are and what they really stand for. It is just as an objective observer of this as a campaign strategy for the purpose of winning power in this country through the office of President of the United States, it looks like a rather huge loser of an agenda.
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Old 03-01-2019, 12:58 PM
 
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Here's the problem for all of them. The South Carolina Primary.

In South Carolina the Democrat party might as well rename itself the African American party. It's all but been abandoned by White people. 2 out of 3 people who voted in the 2016 Democrat Primary in SC, were Black.
  • This is why Bernie will be beaten badly there.
  • Booker is going to be ruined by the Gay rumors. Though he's Black, this demographic is pretty socially conservative when it comes to this issue.
  • Pocahontas - she'll get some of the White Democrat vote, but I expect this is where her campaign will completely swoon. That is if she makes it even this far. Many many people in SC claim some sort of legitimate blood connection to the various NA tribes there.
  • Biden - Will try to do a Hillary hot sauce thing, but I don't think he can pull it off. Unlike the Clintons, he has no connections to the South.
  • Harris - Media is trying hard to turn her into the Black Hillary. So she might prevail.
  • Beta - The establishment might try to make him the front runner. He's the least offensive of the bunch. In this case, he'll get a showing but SC won't be a big deal for him should he lose it. They will push hard for him elsewhere, and the MSM will pretend that it's his to lose.
South Carolina has an open primary. People there routinely cross the lines to vote in the "Other" primary. Given that Trump is a shoe in, expect lots of Republicans to go and have some fun with this too.
Aside from being wildly condescending- this is not an accurate assessment. SC voters (R and D) are more conservative than the average- so Bernie was not going to have much of a lane since he has tagged himself as a Democratic Socialist. What lane he had is now going to be split with Warren. Booker is already hosting events and this whole Booker is gay nonsense won't matter since at least one of our Senators is considered a closeted homosexual by the majority of people I know- and several others have the same assessment of the second. Most of us with 'NA lineage' are simply working of off family folklore as opposed to proven ancestry- this is as prominent among some African Americans as whites. Biden has vacationed in SC for at least a quarter of a century and has ties to some of the states remaining D power brokers- namely Hollings, former Gov Riley, former Mayor Riley, Folwer and Clyburn. He also has a lot of goodwill from serving Obama. Clyburn has said he has heard exactly three names with any frequency in AA circles- Biden, Harris and Booker. He thinks Biden could take the state. Harris should do well for two very different reasons- she is a former prosecutor and this is a law and order state and she is AA with a sorority affiliation. That will gain a lot of manpower and word of a mouth among professional African Americans as well as the breadth of folks they impact across race, religion and workplace. Beto's natural habitat will be the Charleston and Columbia metro areas. Charleston just elected a white male to the US House and Columbia is enough of a Dem stronghold that the Rs in the Statehouse have diced the metro into different Congressional districts. The wildcard will be the portions of the state closest to Charlotte- they fall in the Charlotte Metro and match the demographics of that North Carolina US House seat that is still up in the air but battled to a near tie on election day. The NC counterpart to that area went for a more moderate Dem and I suspect this area will as well.


There are not enough Rs willing to cross party lines into the Democratic primary to truly offset the Democrats. We are a 55-45 R to D state. I think the D front runners at that point will hold too much turf for an outside 10% to really sway things. I also suspect Biden should he run will already have some cross over votes from Country Club Republicans.


To be honest- if Biden holds even 20% of the AA vote I think he can take the primary. I suspect he will outperform Booker among African American voters but think Harris could best both of them in that demographic. I think suburban voters are who will break hard for Biden as will the Myrtle Beach and Hilton Head areas which are packed with Northern transplants.
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Old 03-01-2019, 01:03 PM
 
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Michael Barone observes that the Democrats are going out too far on the left-wing tree limb:


These positions are flat out radical. If they wanted to be more radical than this, what could they realistically do to become more so? In fact, I would have imagined they never would have gone as far as this. Obama never did, that is for sure, at least not during his campaigns. But now these candidates are going all the way to the wall with these radical extreme hard left positions.

Don't get me wrong, I am delighted to see the Democrats finally coming out publically and admitting who they are and what they really stand for. It is just as an objective observer of this as a campaign strategy for the purpose of winning power in this country through the office of President of the United States, it looks like a rather huge loser of an agenda.
Amy Klobuchar has specifically stated that she does not support he Green New Deal.


And anyone who believes the BS about that bill was allowing abortion for a viable fetus up to 9 months was never going to vote Dem.


The Presidency in the last 30 years has consistently gone to the candidate who best excited/united their base. So going liberal is probably a good strategy.
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