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Old 05-03-2019, 03:31 PM
 
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I'm thinking that bigger fields may become the new norm. There have been fields of 10 plus before. 20 plus might not be normal but I doubt we go back to 3-5 and other people shying away from running when not against an incumbent.



Will be interesting to see if challenging incumbents at all becomes more common and such challengers more numerous.
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Old 05-03-2019, 03:31 PM
 
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Also, Montana Governor Steve Bullock is poised to announce within the next two weeks:

Montana governor Steve Bullock to announce bid for presidency

They are going to have to build bleachers on stage just to get all the debate contestants up there at the same time.
Nahh....it's not a clown car, it's now a freakshow. Lol
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Old 05-03-2019, 03:39 PM
 
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I'm thinking that bigger fields may become the new norm. There have been fields of 10 plus before. 20 plus might not be normal but I doubt we go back to 3-5 and other people shying away from running when not against an incumbent.

Will be interesting to see if challenging incumbents at all becomes more common and such challengers more numerous.
Nobody of note will be challenging Trump. He will effectively get a bye straight to the general election.

As far as the larger fields, it depends whether there is a dominant player who is running. When there is not, then the field gets big because that is when more people sense that they may have a chance.

In 2016 the closest thing the Republicans had to a supposedly 'dominant' candidate was Jeb! Bush. Nobody was afraid of Jeb! and the candidates came out of the woodwork. This time, the supposedly 'dominant' candidate for the Democrats is Joe Biden. The rest of the candidates are not buying it, but the Democrats have a history of helping the establishment choice in these contests, so he may well be in a stronger position than Jeb! was in 2016.

If a strong, truly dominant candidate runs, you will not see so many competitors. Everyone knew that Hillary was going to be unassailable among the Democrats in 2016, so even those who ran against here were never regarded as more than props, except for Bernie Sanders, of course.
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Old 05-03-2019, 03:43 PM
 
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Nahh....it's not a clown car, it's now a freakshow. Lol
It is the freakshow bus. You are right.

But the Democrat left and the media kept talking about a clown car back in 2016 for the Republicans, so I thought it would be apt to use the same illustration for their even larger field in 2020.

Also, the title of the article that I quoted in the OP is actually the title of the thread.
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Old 05-03-2019, 05:21 PM
 
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It would not push the imagination very far to imagine Joe Manchin becoming a Republican.
I suspect Richard Ojeda will primary him in 2024.

He already almost lost his seat in 2018 to a Republican. If that doesn't happen first, a Berniecrat will primary him. I say bring it on, because (like Heidi Heitkamp) Manchin is literally a useless waste of space from a congressional standpoint for both liberals and conservatives.
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Old 05-03-2019, 05:29 PM
 
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I suspect Richard Ojeda will primary him in 2024.

He already almost lost his seat in 2018 to a Republican. If that doesn't happen first, a Berniecrat will primary him. I say bring it on, because (like Heidi Heitkamp) Manchin is literally a useless waste of space from a congressional standpoint for both liberals and conservatives.

Well from a liberal standpoint, it would be far better to have a candidate who votes with you some of the time vs. a far right, super safe senator for life that never will.
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Old 05-03-2019, 05:55 PM
 
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It is the freakshow bus. You are right.

But the Democrat left and the media kept talking about a clown car back in 2016 for the Republicans, so I thought it would be apt to use the same illustration for their even larger field in 2020.

Also, the title of the article that I quoted in the OP is actually the title of the thread.
No I'm just kind of kidding my friend. Though in seriousness it is complete lunacy from Ds at this point. I don't think one of them has a chance against Trump (thank God).
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Old 05-03-2019, 06:39 PM
 
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It would not push the imagination very far to imagine Joe Manchin becoming a Republican.

Joe Manchin is a Democrat in name only. His state of W. VA IS A VERY Republican state and he votes to please his constituency.
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Old 05-03-2019, 06:53 PM
 
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No I'm just kind of kidding my friend. Though in seriousness it is complete lunacy from Ds at this point. I don't think one of them has a chance against Trump (thank God).
Trump’s approval rating hasn’t been very good lately. He seems a bit goofy compared to some of the very educated Democratic candidates. Since Trump has put a gag on Wharton and even the military academy he attended, we have no idea how well he did in school or even if he actually attended Wharton, much less graduated.

Also, something that might come into play in the election is appearance. Given Trump’s age and his odd hair, unusual complexion, and weight, if his opponent is one of the younger candidates running, he very well may come off as peculiar, ugly, and out of touch. Looks matter. Remember how Richard Nixon appeared compared to John Kennedy, his handsome, vivacious opponent. Was it fair? No, but that’s what is perceived by many.
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Old 05-03-2019, 06:57 PM
 
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Trump’s approval rating hasn’t been very good lately. He seems a bit goofy compared to some of the very educated Democratic candidates. Since Trump has put a gag on Wharton and even the military academy he attended, we have no idea how well he did in school or even if he actually attended Wharton, much less graduated.

Also, something that might come into play in the election is appearance. Given Trump’s age and his odd hair, unusual complexion, and weight, if his opponent is one of the younger candidates running, he very well may come off as peculiar, ugly, and out of touch. Looks matter. Remember how Richard Nixon appeared compared to John Kennedy, his handsome, vivacious opponent. Was it fair? No, but that’s what is perceived by many.
So are you a Tulsi Gabbard supporter, then?
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