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Old 01-28-2019, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Well, Elizabeth Warren won't be taking any PAC money. What's wrong with her?

She's been about the middle class forever and, trust me, the middle class needs some love.
What about the poor class. The ones in poverty?

A true economic change should offer greater freedoms to all, not just the middle class (who are struggling of course).

As for Warren, I won't vote for her but I don't hold it against people who will, she is a distant second to Bernie. Of course her plans will have less of a lasting affect as the promote good corporate governance (leaving the same people in charge) while Bernie would break up these large organizations of nationalize them.
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Old 01-28-2019, 05:54 PM
 
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Can someone on the right answer me why it is so bad to have a person who is not funded by Wall Street, the military industrial complex and big pharma running for president?

Its a big breath of fresh air in my opinion to have a candidate who is not beholden to the billionaire class and instead is free to give a voice to labor and the working class in this country. Boy, is it needed.

Salt of the earth Americans have been decimated by corrupt politicians serving their financial overlords for too long.
We have someone who ran for president and IS PRESIDENT who was not funded by Wall Street or the others you mentioned. His name is Donald Trump.
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Old 01-29-2019, 04:31 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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We have someone who ran for president and IS PRESIDENT who was not funded by Wall Street or the others you mentioned. His name is Donald Trump.
But he sucks and doesn't support any policies I wanted
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Old 01-29-2019, 05:35 AM
 
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But he sucks and doesn't support any policies I wanted
But, that wasn't the comment. The comment was why we cannot have a candidate who isn't owned by big business. Trump was that candidate and is that President.
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Old 01-29-2019, 05:43 AM
 
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https://news.yahoo.com/bernie-sander...234647684.html


Oh good lord. We know who the FREEBIE candidate will attract....barf. What's so sad is this bozo has enough support to probably win the election....will his possible be the bomb that sets off a civil war? I mean seriously stealing MORE of people's money won't go over well.
FREEBIE candidate? The tax cuts weren`t his idea. If he steals your money you can call the police or your KGB friends.
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Old 01-29-2019, 05:49 AM
 
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We have someone who ran for president and IS PRESIDENT who was not funded by Wall Street or the others you mentioned. His name is Donald Trump.
Trump is swimming in cash from Wall Street and Goldman. Thats why he hired a Goldman fat cat to beg for money during his campaign (and later gave him the keys to the Treasury). Trump gives himself and his cronies what he wants at the expense of ordinary salt of the earth Americans.

We need non-corrupt people in charge. Not people with the same big money donors as establishment democrats.
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Old 01-29-2019, 10:51 AM
 
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Can someone on the right answer me why it is so bad to have a person who is not funded by Wall Street, the military industrial complex and big pharma running for president?

Its a big breath of fresh air in my opinion to have a candidate who is not beholden to the billionaire class and instead is free to give a voice to labor and the working class in this country. Boy, is it needed.

Salt of the earth Americans have been decimated by corrupt politicians serving their financial overlords for too long.
I hear you, but Bernie Sanders is too old. Even if elected he might not survive two terms considering the stress of being President.
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Old 01-29-2019, 11:25 AM
 
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Bernie had his day. I do not see a better outcome in 2020. To be blunt- he'll lose ground to both other progressives in the race and the votes he picked up as the only suitable protest vote against Clinton. For all the hand ringing about Superdelegates- Bernie had already lost the race based on the pledged delegates who were allotted by primary votes.


I expect to see Warren and Brown cannibalize his support since Brown will appeal to more workers and Warren can explain policy on a deeper level than Sanders.
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Old 01-29-2019, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Bernie had his day. I do not see a better outcome in 2020. To be blunt- he'll lose ground to both other progressives in the race and the votes he picked up as the only suitable protest vote against Clinton. For all the hand ringing about Superdelegates- Bernie had already lost the race based on the pledged delegates who were allotted by primary votes.


I expect to see Warren and Brown cannibalize his support since Brown will appeal to more workers and Warren can explain policy on a deeper level than Sanders.
That is great political gesturing and predicting made popular by cable news. But why do you not support him? What about his policies and record is not appealing to you?
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Old 01-29-2019, 05:40 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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That is great political gesturing and predicting made popular by cable news. But why do you not support him? What about his policies and record is not appealing to you?
LOL. So anyone who doesn't share your zeal for Bernie is 'poltical gesturing and predicting made by cable news'?

Only Bernie fans know the REAL truth?

Come ON.
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