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The middle doesn't work for most Americans except the elite who want to keep the status quo. Bernie vs Trump would be a great choice for the voters..populist left vs populist right. The biggest problem the Republicans face is there are too many chamber of commerce moderates floating around and not enough Trump Republicans. In fact I can't really think of any. The Republicans will only win if they have Trump or someone who passionately believes in the same issues.
The only thing Donald Trump passionately believes in is Donald Trump.
Biden born in 1942, would be his 3rd time to run for President & never got more than 8% of the vote.
Bernie born in 1941 and a Socialist
3rd in line woul be Pelosi born in 1940.
1,2,3 ... all 80 years old or knocking on the door of 80.
I’m very doubtful this is a winning combination.
And Trump is a spring chicken? He'll be 73 in 2 months LOL.
Of all the arguments about policy you could have made, that's what you go with? LOL
As of now, I'm going to have to bite my tongue and say Biden. The others are running so far to the left that it would be a repeat of 1972, when an unpopular Richard M. Nixon won 49 states, including George McGovern's home state of SD.
As of now, I'm going to have to bite my tongue and say Biden. The others are running so far to the left that it would be a repeat of 1972, when an unpopular Richard M. Nixon won 49 states, including George McGovern's home state of SD.
48 years is too long to make any valid comparisons between the outcome of 1972 to the outcome of 2020.
I'm old enough that I voted in 1972, but most of the voters who will participate in the 2020 weren't born yet, and both parties have changed substantially since then.
The issues that won for Nixon are all dead, gone, and settled. Just as Nixon and McGovern are all dead and long gone too. The issues decided that election much more than the candidate's personalities.
2020 will be almost entirely personality-driven by our incumbent president. The issues will take a back seat, whether the Democrats like it or not. That's the real problem the Democratic party now faces.
I like Joe, but I'm not going to vote for him. He's a 3-time loser just like Clinton, and Biden always has a strong start, but always ends up entangled by the end. I don't want a candidate like that.
I prefer a candidate who may start a bit weaker but gains strength and solidity as he goes along, so he finishes a lot stronger than when he started.
(I only use 'he' in the classic sense of terminology. I really don't care if the strongest Democratic candidate is male, female, or anything else. If the candidate can do a better job than Trump and can deliver the election for the party, that's enough for my vote.)
48 years is too long to make any valid comparisons between the outcome of 1972 to the outcome of 2020.
OK, lets go with 1984. Another Republican did it then.
And Mondale was a far far better democrat than any of the nutcases announcing runs now. And have you seen Biden. He's the walking dead these days. Trump is right. Blow on him and he falls over.
The Democrats are in a very bad way. They have become a radical fringe party that trades on gender, identity, and victimization and not much else.
48 years is too long to make any valid comparisons between the outcome of 1972 to the outcome of 2020.
I'm old enough that I voted in 1972, but most of the voters who will participate in the 2020 weren't born yet, and both parties have changed substantially since then.
The issues that won for Nixon are all dead, gone, and settled. Just as Nixon and McGovern are all dead and long gone too. The issues decided that election much more than the candidate's personalities.
2020 will be almost entirely personality-driven by our incumbent president. The issues will take a back seat, whether the Democrats like it or not. That's the real problem the Democratic party now faces.
I like Joe, but I'm not going to vote for him. He's a 3-time loser just like Clinton, and Biden always has a strong start, but always ends up entangled by the end. I don't want a candidate like that.
I prefer a candidate who may start a bit weaker but gains strength and solidity as he goes along, so he finishes a lot stronger than when he started.
(I only use 'he' in the classic sense of terminology. I really don't care if the strongest Democratic candidate is male, female, or anything else. If the candidate can do a better job than Trump and can deliver the election for the party, that's enough for my vote.)
Fair point, but I think it's still basically a center-right country, and any self-described socialist will be trounced in a national election. I guess they could get some support from 18-30 yr-olds, but generally they do not vote.
Even with the losses in 2018, GOP still controls about 60% of turf, if you add up governorships, state legislative bodies, the white house, and fed. leg. bodies.
I'm warming up somewhat to Elizabeth Warren. I heard her say the other day emphatically that she considers herself a capitalist, not a socialist. I assume she thinks of herself as more of a Scandinavian-style social democrat. This is music to my ears.
I know a lot of people don’t like her because of the Native American controversy, but she really is a smart person who actually thinks before she speaks. I really don’t know who I’ll support until I hear more from every candidate though.
Senator Michael Bennet from Colorado has thrown his hat into the ring. He seems like a sensible centrist. Should be worth watching.
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