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Old 06-22-2019, 01:07 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Here is a quick rundown of the current candidate ages.

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/ne...es/3643967002/

Historically, only Ronald Reagan, William Harrison and James Buchanan were over 65 when they took office, although George H.W. Bush was 64.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._States_by_age

I am 65, but I personally would not vote for anyone who is 70 or older at the time of taking office -- and that would eliminate Trump, Sanders, and Biden. In today's world, imo, the office of President should not be some kind of reward for political longevity and/or party loyalty, but it needs someone young and healthy in both mind and, hopefully, in body, too -- although being in a wheelchair did not stop FDR!
The advantage of an older person is that they would likely have more life experience while the advantage of a younger person is that they would be more likely to be open to new ideas. Its probably the reason we tend to elect middle-aged candidates because they have a little of both advantages.

There is one point I am going to make about you saying you would not vote for anyone over 70. Being in your 70s now is not the way it was years ago.
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Old 06-22-2019, 01:50 PM
 
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I'm still not voting for Biden.

Regardless - you said in this thread that age isn't a factor. Yet in a diff thread you said "Biden is too old".


You contradicted yourself. Why?
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Old 06-22-2019, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Regardless - you said in this thread that age isn't a factor. Yet in a diff thread you said "Biden is too old".


You contradicted yourself. Why?
Because criticisms that apply to mere mortals don't apply to the lord and savior of Berniestan.
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Old 06-22-2019, 02:02 PM
 
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Regardless - you said in this thread that age isn't a factor. Yet in a diff thread you said "Biden is too old".


You contradicted yourself. Why?
No, I didn't.

I simply acknowledged that Biden as a presidential candidate is old (a statement of fact). The question in this thread is "Does age factor at all into which POTUS candidate you will vote for?" and I never had any intention of voting for Biden, regardless of his age.

Please read more carefully next time.
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Old 06-22-2019, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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No, and anyone who does is ageist.

And for those who say "I'm old too!" to excuse their ageism, that's like a white person who's racist proclaiming "I have friends who are black!"
Also citidata18:
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I agree. Biden is too old to be running for president, IMO.
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No, I didn't.

I simply acknowledged that Biden as a presidential candidate is old (a statement of fact). The question in this thread is "Does age factor at all into which POTUS candidate you will vote for?" and I never had any intention of voting for Biden, regardless of his age.

Please read more carefully next time.
So which is it, someone being too old is a statement of fact or someone being too old is an ageist statement?

And if Biden is too old, does that mean as a factual statement that Bernie is too old?
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Old 06-22-2019, 02:07 PM
 
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No, I didn't.

I simply acknowledged that Biden as a presidential candidate is old (a statement of fact). The question in this thread is "Does age factor at all into which POTUS candidate you will vote for?" and I never had any intention of voting for Biden, regardless of his age.

Please read more carefully next time.
This is what you said:

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I agree. Biden is too old to be running for president, IMO.
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Old 06-22-2019, 02:15 PM
 
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So which is it, someone being too old is a statement of fact or someone being too old is an ageist statement?

And if Biden is too old, does that mean as a factual statement that Bernie is too old?
Making the statement of fact that someone is old isn't the same as saying someone's age factors into your decision to vote for them.

If you say Bernie is running for president with bad eye sight (which is objectively true because he wears glasses), does that also mean you're saying you won't vote for him because he has bad eye sight?
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Old 06-22-2019, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Making the statement of fact that someone is old isn't the same as saying someone's age factors into your decision to vote for them.

If you say Bernie is running for president with bad eye sight (which is objectively true because he wears glasses), does that also mean you're saying you won't vote for him because he has bad eye sight?
But you didn't just make the statement of fact that Biden was old, you said he was "too old to be running for president."

So presumably by the same definition, Bernie is also too old to be running for president, since he's older than Biden. Yes or no?
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Old 06-22-2019, 02:24 PM
 
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But you didn't just make the statement of fact that Biden was old, you said he was "too old to be running for president."

So presumably by the same definition, Bernie is also too old to be running for president, since he's older than Biden. Yes or no?
Only responding to the bolded, yes I did only make a statement of fact. The fact is Biden, who is running for president, is old.

You just didn't read the post, and you also failed to understand the context of this thread, which is unfortunate.

In any event, this conversation is going nowhere.
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Old 06-22-2019, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Only responding to the bolded, yes I did only make a statement of fact. The fact is Biden, who is running for president, is old.

You just didn't read the post, and you also failed to understand the context of this thread, which is unfortunate.
You are only fooling yourself, you know.

Your refusal to acknowledge what you actually posted, just so you can avoid having to say that yes, if Biden is too old to run for president, then Bernie is too old to run for president doesn't change that you are ageist by your own definition but also a hypocrite.
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