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Old 08-21-2019, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Pyongjang
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It's absurd they are rigging the process again.

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To recap: Gabbard has polled at 2% or more in two polls sponsored by the two largest newspapers in two early primary states, but the DNC -- through its mysteriously incoherent selection process -- has determined that these surveys do not count toward her debate eligibility. Without these exclusions, Gabbard would have already qualified. She has polled at 2% or more in two polls officially deemed “qualifying,” and surpassed the 130,000 donor threshold on Aug. 2. While the latter metric would seem more indicative of “grassroots support” -- a formerly obscure Hawaii congresswoman has managed to secure more than 160,000 individual contributions from all 50 states, according to the latest figures from her campaign -- the DNC has declared that it will prioritize polling over donors. In polls with a sample size of just a few hundred people, this means excluding candidates based on what can literally amount to rounding errors
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...ia_141055.html
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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What gives anyone an idea that a person has a chance if they can't even get 2% of the electorate to support them? I think anyone that doesn't have at least 10% support by now is probably not going to get the nomination. You have to get more traction than that by now. If she has had that many donors, then it doesn't seem like she's put that money to the best use to get her message out and gin up support.
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Pyongjang
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What gives anyone an idea that a person has a chance if they can't even get 2% of the electorate to support them? I think anyone that doesn't have at least 10% support by now is probably not going to get the nomination. You have to get more traction than that by now. If she has had that many donors, then it doesn't seem like she's put that money to the best use to get her message out and gin up support.
It's over a year away.
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Old 08-21-2019, 10:52 PM
 
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I havent met a single person in real life where either of them is their favorite.
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Old 08-21-2019, 11:01 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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The DNC considers The Boston Globe as non qualifying ?
Same with the Post and Courier which is big in SC.
That's beyond rubbish at this point.
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Old 08-22-2019, 06:19 AM
 
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I havent met a single person in real life where either of them is their favorite.

Give me a call or drop by for a visit and I'll tell you why I support Tulsi
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Old 08-22-2019, 08:33 AM
 
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Here are the rules and approved pollsters, published May 2019.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/29/72785...r-by-september

approved polls have to be associated with or conducted by the following: the Associated Press, ABC News, CBS News, CNN, The Des Moines Register, Fox News, Monmouth University, NBC News, The New York Times, NPR, Quinnipiac, the University of New Hampshire, The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, The Washington Post and Winthrop University.
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Old 08-22-2019, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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I don’t vote, but if I did I’d go with Tulsi. It’s pretty predictable that the true anti-war candidates are shoved under the rug.
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Old 08-22-2019, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Reminds me what they did to Ron in 2008 and 2012.
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:46 AM
 
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Here are the rules and approved pollsters, published May 2019.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/29/72785...r-by-september

approved polls have to be associated with or conducted by the following: the Associated Press, ABC News, CBS News, CNN, The Des Moines Register, Fox News, Monmouth University, NBC News, The New York Times, NPR, Quinnipiac, the University of New Hampshire, The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, The Washington Post and Winthrop University.
Thanks for sharing. It would appear the papers posters would prefer have proxy would have if they used one of the approved pollsters. That's also a wide enough swath of sources that if someone where at an adequate level they would be hitting thresholds with enough polls to balance out any misses in others.


Gabbard has adequate name ID, a big moment at one of the debates, and a swath of vocal libertarian proponents- I do not think lack of media attention would impact her if there were any path for her in a D primary. I suspect the problem is she is the preferred Dem nominee for folks who will not vote for a Democrat.


Williamson has been a best selling author for decades and is chummy with the almighty Oprah. Her problem is that her prominence in self-help and spirituality is not being treated as a clear path to the White House by most Dems.


Part of being elected President is figuring out how to command or commandeer media attention. If they are not achieving this in the early stage of a primary I do not see where they would be more successful in a general.
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