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Old 11-13-2019, 11:41 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Seems slightly unfair considering they skipped how many debates, campaigning and spending up to the point of entry. But I guess its up to dnc. It does seem that hillary wants badly to jump in
Its not unfair at all.

No one told all these people to start running for President in January of 2019, they could have choose to wait until now as well.

There is no rule as to when you need to jump in other than the individual states having candidate filing deadlines for races at all levels.
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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I think it's silly.
What's silly to me is that it's now considered "late" to "jump in" a full year before the general election.

The never-ending election cycle we have nowadays is exhausting.
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Old 11-14-2019, 01:57 AM
 
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If anything i laugh at the suckers who are spending millions to jump in a race this late, Not to mention that historically the nominee has never been any candidate that jumps in late; No amount of money can get you momentum.
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Old 11-14-2019, 06:10 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Democrats don't lack for Candidates. There are still 14 or so running.

What message does this send?

They have no confidence in their front runners Biden, Sanders and Poca ?
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:03 AM
 
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Democrats don't lack for Candidates. There are still 14 or so running.

What message does this send?

They have no confidence in their front runners Biden, Sanders and Poca ?

That would make some sense if it were Democratic voters or the party that was reaching out to these individuals to join in the race. Then you could claim that the Democrats have 'no confidence' in their leading candidates.



But, it does not work that way. One man has decided to toss his hat in the ring.



You have several (two?) people running against President Trump. Are we to claim that Republicans have no confidence in Mr. Trump? Of course not.
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:09 AM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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Let's call it like it is---it looks like the Dem establishment inside polling is in full panic mode and they are just mashing down on the key board hoping to eventually publish a Pulitzer Prize winning novel.

They have all these polls showing Warren, Sanders, and Mary Poppins beating Trump by 10 points...yet new candidates are being flung in there left and right at the last second as a reboot.
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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I'm neither a Democrat nor a Republican, but although I think late candidates are "okay", I will not vote for anyone who does not officially enter the race by December 31.

I think that candidates should officially enter the race one month before the Iowa caucus at the latest in order to have the stated views of any relatively unknown candidates actually verified and to investigate their backgrounds for any "red flags".
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Old 11-14-2019, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Starting a walkabout
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It’s a little late to build a grassroots campaign, so you need to be really well known and popular to enter at this point. I don’t see the latecomers doing well. But I don’t have strong feelings about it either way. I’m already excited and committed to a candidate and I’m not looking for something else.

This is what Hillary is counting on, since she is well known and at least in her mind, she thinks she is very popular with the masses.


After all, we are constantly reminded on how she won the popular vote and that has gone in her head too. She imagines she will be as popular in 2020 as she was in 2016.
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Old 11-14-2019, 09:36 AM
 
Location: az
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If either Bloomberg or say Clinton (should she jump in) win the nomination you can bet many on the progressives left will scream foul.

Identity politics has pushed the Dems into a corner. Want a charged up Black turnout? Consider M. Obama. The progressive left? Bernie or Warren. The Rust Belt? Biden's your man. Now, you don't give me my candidate of choice... well I might just sit this one out.

Identity politics has done a good job in fracturing the Dem party.

Only 24/7 mainstream media coverage largely sympathetic to the Dem party is keeping the 2020 Dem nomination from going off the rails.

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Old 11-14-2019, 10:28 AM
 
Location: DFW
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That would make some sense if it were Democratic voters or the party that was reaching out to these individuals to join in the race. Then you could claim that the Democrats have 'no confidence' in their leading candidates.

But, it does not work that way. One man has decided to toss his hat in the ring.
There is a lot of People in the Dem Party that must have told him this was a good idea. Blacks have not jumped on the Booker or Harris wagon and Biden is not getting the job done.

The Money does not want Bernie and Warren is Hillary 2.0 who talks Socialist but will sell out to Big Money.

They need a candidate and so far none are it. Bloomberg is too rich with ZERO personality.

Patrick did not blindly make this decision without commitments of big money and big hopes from people in power.
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