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Old 11-14-2019, 11:11 AM
 
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As you may know, Deval Patrick and Micheal Bloomberg have made it official. Which candidates do you think they hurt the most?
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Old 11-14-2019, 11:28 AM
 
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Potentially, Biden, but probably nobody.
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Old 11-14-2019, 03:17 PM
 
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Patrick entering would hurt Warren, Booker, Harris, and Biden. For the record, I like him way, way better than all four.
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Old 11-14-2019, 04:22 PM
 
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Deval Patrick is too jack and jill (look it up) for SC black voters
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:06 PM
 
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Patrick will also hurt Buttigieg.

I knew the basics about him, but hadn't heard him speak before. The voice is notable at first but the words are pretty good and clear.

He'll win supporters, initially and as folks drop out. He'll have firm opponents.


It just gets tougher and tougher to see anyone breaking above 25-30% voting support at least thru Super Tuesday. Maybe it gets clearer after that. But more likely not I'd guess.




Patrick sure got big hands up multiple times.
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Old 11-15-2019, 03:41 AM
 
Location: The house on the hill
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Patrick and Bloomberg do nothing for me. I’m 100% all in on Buttigieg (the first time I’ve ever been excited about a candidate and wanted to volunteer and donate to the campaign). I don’t see anything changing this. I spend hours watching Pete interviews on YouTube because he fills me with hope. I’ve even gotten my husband on board with Pete
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Old 11-15-2019, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Bloomber isn't going to draw enough support to really hurt anyone.

Patrick might take a little from each, he tends to fill the lane between Biden and Bernie, however his impact is going to be minimal due to how late he is getting in.
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Old 11-15-2019, 06:27 AM
 
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The final answer will be 'their own egos.' The race will be decided in swing states that have large rural components and the presence of a lot of working class voters. How are the party hopping, Wall Street connected, billionare Mayor of NYC and the former Governor of bright blue Massachusetts going to draw those voters? It should also be noted Patrick had to hand the keys to the Governor's Mansion to a Republican. And after 3 terms of Bloomberg, NYC went near Socialist. Neither moved the needle in their own fiefdom.
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Old 11-16-2019, 01:22 PM
 
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Patrick will also hurt Buttigieg.

I knew the basics about him, but hadn't heard him speak before. The voice is notable at first but the words are pretty good and clear.

He'll win supporters, initially and as folks drop out. He'll have firm opponents.


It just gets tougher and tougher to see anyone breaking above 25-30% voting support at least thru Super Tuesday. Maybe it gets clearer after that. But more likely not I'd guess.




Patrick sure got big hands up multiple times.
How does he hurt Buttigieg? Patrick seems like he has a very different profile than that of Buttigieg. Unless you mean just a new entrant hurts a competitor (or any of them) obtain at least 15% in a contest, just by the number of entrants.
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Old 11-16-2019, 01:28 PM
 
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They have similar rhetoric (to my ear), appealing for decency / unity / compromise. Both probably will get more older voters than younger voters though they are trying for younger voters.
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