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Old 11-22-2019, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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I don't think suburban white women will have a problem with Pete, but he does need to work on minority turnout. If he is the nominee he will need to pick someone of color for his VP.
I think lots of suburban white woman will agree with Amy Klobuchar that a woman with Pete's experience would have been laughed out of the field as a complete non-starter, and while most of them don't care that he's gay, they wonder why a man who couldn't win statewide election and is the mayor of a small city of 100,000 people would be considered a viable candidate for president.
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Old 11-22-2019, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I think lots of suburban white woman will agree with Amy Klobuchar that a woman with Pete's experience would have been laughed out of the field as a complete non-starter, and while most of them don't care that he's gay, they wonder why a man who couldn't win statewide election and is the mayor of a small city of 100,000 people would be considered a viable candidate for president.
You may be correct, and indeed he may not be able to convince enough D voters he has the requisite experience to become the nominee.

However if he does make it to the general, I think most educated suburban women will easily choose him over the orange maniac.
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Old 11-22-2019, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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They both suck. I'd go with Klobuchar as the best of two mediocres because Pete's shown himself to be a lying snake unworthy of the office. At least she comes by her principles honestly.
Please explain how Mayor Pete is a “lying snake.” This is news to me.
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Old 11-22-2019, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Please explain how Mayor Pete is a “lying snake.” This is news to me.
Some still don’t understand Pete never said they were all black.
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Old 11-22-2019, 02:50 PM
 
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Please explain how Mayor Pete is a “lying snake.” This is news to me.
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Some still don’t understand Pete never said they were all black.
Go look at my post history, I don't want to be making duplicate posts across multiple threads. It should be in one of my last three. Same to you alttechdude, since one of my last posts was in direct response to you, I believe.

However, I'm just Joe-blow on the internet. I highly recommend reading the articles written on Pete on commondreams.org, which go way more in depth than I ever could on a forum website.

I also highly recommend checking out Jimmy Dore and Kyle Kulinski's podcasts on YouTube. They have some pretty savage (but accurate) commentary on Mayor Pete. It'll also take you much less time to listen to those podcast clips.

You wouldn't know this about me, but I wouldn't make an aggressive statement like that if there wasn't real substance behind it.

I may disagree with the centrist Democrats on policy, but Mayor Pete is the only one I have deep problems with in terms of his tactics and deception.
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:35 PM
 
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I don't think suburban white women will have a problem with Pete, but he does need to work on minority turnout. If he is the nominee he will need to pick someone of color for his VP.
Yeah, Pete is built for the suburbs (especially against Trump). The two big questions are:
1) can he generate minority turnout?
2) can he manage losses among white working class voters (does he lose them by 20 points or 40 points?)


Barack Obama had a strong base among suburban whites and people of color. That gave him some extra room to work on wooing a sufficient minority of working class whites. Mayor Pete is going to have a tougher time balancing 1 and 2.
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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The run-up to the primaries is far from over and Klobuchar may end up ahead of Buttigieg by the time the Iowa caucuses take place over two months from now. She may not have the most dynamic presence on a crowded debate stage, but her track record in Congress is substantial. Politicians in general tend to spin their positions, but she comes across as more authentic than most. Many Americans are looking for leadership that is pragmatic and sensible, especially given what the country is dealing with today.
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:58 PM
 
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I think lots of suburban white woman will agree with Amy Klobuchar that a woman with Pete's experience would have been laughed out of the field as a complete non-starter, and while most of them don't care that he's gay, they wonder why a man who couldn't win statewide election and is the mayor of a small city of 100,000 people would be considered a viable candidate for president.

In a weird way a more diverse field kinda hurts Mayor Pete. He has out polled lots of better credentialed white male billionaires, governors, senators, NYC mayors. Twenty years ago the narrative would have been more of a "Mr. Smith goes to Washington" phenom, now he is privileged white male displacing better qualified women and people of color.
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Old 11-22-2019, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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Klobuchar has her own problems with minority support but nobody really cares at the moment because she’s still polling low in general. But if she does rise to the occasion, she herself will have to face the racial gauntlet, specifically questions from her time as a Minnesota prosecutor.

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Old 11-22-2019, 05:26 PM
 
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I would disagree that they "let Hillary down" - I think there were a lot of external factors that resulted in under 100,000 votes swinging the Electoral College away from the person who received millions more votes overall. But I don't think that the women making all of those calls, knocking on all of those doors, reaching out and confirming people were voting on Election Day and driving them to the polls if necessary (all things they did in abundance for Hillary) will automatically put in the same degree of effort for a Biden/Buttigieg ticket. Of course, that's just one woman's opinion, not a scientific statement.
I hope Pete doesn't connect with Biden. Biden seems to be "losing it" to me. He gets confused. We need a younger candidate, someone who can answer Trump in concise, quick comments. Mayor Pete is it.
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